talking eight hour round trip to get an abortion if you're going from rio grand valley up to sanofi aventis. >> the governor elect said let them go to the clinic in new mexico. >> if you don't think that this is a cloak for closing down the centers wonder what you think of the requirement in some states for ultrasound and to be read to the women. you think that is about women safety? >> what i think is that i would have thought this is issue that frankly women of all sides could have come together on. because it had nothing to do with stopping -- >> i just think -- >> obviously -- >> where they also -- >> ultrasounds are dash. >> i don't think they have to be forced. >> wait. one at a time. please. you're talking about a vaginal ultrasound. >> i am. >> i think that was ridiculous. but i do think -- >> in texas. >> but vaginal -- just regular ultrasound. here is the deal. ultrasounds are great technique for people to see what is happening inside the womb. one reason adoring is -- >> i want to get you in here. >> i don't see what the fuss is about. i come from a medical family my parents are