an example of that is the rotary playgarden that the santa clara county office of education has been partner with rotary.. the rotary club of san jose in creating which is a beautiful place for non-disabled and disabled peers to play together, and do those normal, natural things which is a beautiful place for non-disabled and disabled peers to play together, and do those normal, natural things which is a beautiful place for non-disabled and disabled peers to play together, and do those normal, natural things that all children do. and that key word, "normal", we hear that a lot, quinn. i'm thinking your research... you've probably had people say, "well, we're trying to make things normal." but how difficult and challenging is that? it's difficult, and it comes down exactly to just talking about it. and one of the most difficult things is that it's uncomfortable to talk about. it's something that we all struggle with, you know, we worry about hurting each other's feeling so much that we... it's hard to kind of...actually get the conversation out there. yes, but what is normal? i mean wh