santa claus suit for allegedly burglarizing the storage shed of a local church and in a major error in judgement, santa hired rudolph as his attorney. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ladies and gentlemen, we got a great show for you to night. she is the star of the new series "limetown" on facebook watch. jessica biel is here, you guys [ cheers and applause so happy she's back. you can see him in the highly anticipated "breaking bad" film "el camino", now streaming on netflix. jesse plemons is joining us. [ cheers and applause one of our favorites and he is a very funny writer and comedian, whose podcast "entry level" has new episodes available every monday here to perform stand-up for us, my friend, brooks wheelan. [ cheers and applause so, great show so happy you're here before we get to all of our wonderful guests, the president's political position is eroding faster than ever before after shocking testimony from a key witness in the impeachment inquiry. for more on this, it's time for "a closer look." [ cheers and applause >> seth: there's long been a belief in the political world that somehow donald trump is untouchable. that he never pays a political price for anything and that nothing can ever hurt him. people call him "teflon don. but, he doesn't look like teflon it's more like someone made a beanbag chair out of old pumpkins [ laughter ] of course, the reality has always been that trump is deeply unpopular among a majority of americans. it's just that we're clinging to an antiquated electoral college system that lets like five states decide the election and often gives the presidency to whoever gets the second most votes. nothing else in the world works like that. just imagine how bad "jeopardy!" would be if whoever got the lowest score was invited back the next day [ laughter ] "okay, donald, you got negative $1,000. looks like you're coming back tomorrow." "i hope tomorrow, you let me by a vowel. [ laughter ] "that's a different show." "whatever. i want that vowel. [ laughter ] j. [ light laughter ] but, still it really feels like we're seeing a potentially major political shift happen right now with impeachment a new cnn poll yesterday found that the highest number yet, a full 50% of americans, want the president, not just impeached, but removed from office altogether >> just out this morning, a brand new cnn poll finds public support for impeaching and removing president trump from office on the rise >> here's that numeric high. 50% -- half the country in this poll -- should trump be impeached and removed from office 50% say yes. 43% say no take a look at this over time and you'll see that it's the high water mark. >> seth: hey, you've got to give it to trump, this is definitely the first time in is his life he's ever hit a high water mark. [ laughter ] trump spent most of his life at the low water mark which makes sense, because he does kind of look like something you would find on the beach after the tide goes out. [ laughter ] "please, push me in the water so i can rejoin my pod. [ laughter ] and you know trump saw that cnn poll, because he watches cable news all the time. his staff probably had to edit the clip on his dvr and hope he didn't notice. >> a brand new cnn poll finds public support for president trump on the rise. >> take a look at this it's the high water mark 50% -- >> support - >> trump [ laughter ] >> seth: "i don't know why everyone is jumping at this poll it's great." [ applause ] so trump's political position is eroding quickly, and we're even starting to see small cracks in the support among republicans. retiring florida congressman francis rooney said he wouldn't rule out for voting for impeachment. and utah senator mitt romney said this about trump's quid pro quo with ukraine on sunday >> we certainly can't have presidents asking foreign countries to provide something of political value that is, after all, against the law. >> seth: yeah, it is and i can't believe that even has to be said it's like if you were doing 120 on the highway while snorting cocaine, drinking tequila, and mooning other drivers. and a cop pulled you over and said, "public nudity, after all, is against the law." [ laughter ] of course, after romney made those comments, trump, who demands absolute loyalty from everyone, lashed out at him on monday, suggesting that democrats were better at sticking together. >> i think the democrats fight dirty. but two things they have, they're vicious, and they stick together they don't have mitt romney in their midst. they don't have people like that >> seth: all right, first of all, the idea that democrats don't disagree with each other is insane. [ laughter ] i mean, the difference is that when democrats argue they have productive disagreements over things like how to provide healthcare to everyone or how to address institutional racism when republicans argue, it's like the end of a botched bank robbery where everyone is pointing guns at each other screaming, "who's the rat? are you the rat? i'm not the -- oh, we're so [ bleep ]!" [ laughter ] that's why trump is lashing out in increasingly deranged ways, because he doesn't have an actual defense he and his aides have already confessed to the crimes in question the facts have been so brutal for trump and his team that in less than a month, they went from this -- >> there was no quid pro quo >> seth: to this - >> what exactly did you hope zelensky would do about the bidens after your phone call exactly? >> well, i would think that if they were honest about it, they'd start a major investigation into the bidens. >> seth: to this - >> so the demand for an investigation into the democrats was part of the reason that he - it was to withhold funding to ukraine. >> the look back to what happened in 2016 certainly was part of the thing that he was worried about in corruption with that nation. and that is absolutely appropriate. >> withholding the funding >> yeah. >> let's be clear, what you just described a quid pro quo it is funding will not flow unless the investigation into the democratic server happened as well. >> we do -- we do that all the time [ light laughter ] >> seth: all right, first of all -- first of all, i love mulvaney's face right there when the reporter said, "what you just described is a quid pro quo. he reacts like a guy who just realized he said the wrong name during sex [ laughter ] "oh, janet." "my name is lisa." [ laughter ] "you don't look like a lisa. [ laughter ] second, not only did he just admit it, he said they do it "all the time. [ light laughter ] these idiots are the only criminals in the world who would defend themselves from one crime by confessing to more crimes [ light laughter ] it's, like if the cops called you in about a murder and said, "did you dump the body in central park?" and you went, "of course, i did. that's where i dump all my bodies [ laughter ] i assume i'm free to go? [ laughter ] [ applause ] so, the trump team - the trump team's position on ukraine has, let's say, evolved. which makes sense, since trump himself looks like he should be third from the right on one of the human evolution charts [ laughter ] i mean, that's why he is so much more comfortable crawling like a sea turtle who just buried his golf balls in the stand. [ light laughter ] whenever he stands upright his center gravity shifts forward like a baby standing up in his crib [ laughter ] and he even holds -- [ cheers and applause he even holds his hands out, like he's waiting for an adult to steer him while he walks. [ laughter and applause in fact, republicans are flailing so badly in their attempts to actually defend what trump did with ukraine, that rather that mount an actual defense, they've decided instead to resort to dumb stunts to shut down the inquiry altogether. like, today when a group of republicans barged into a house deposition in a secure room and refused to leave >> we start with a bizarre turn on capitol hill, when as many as two dozen house republicans upset over the impeachment inquiry stormed a secure hearing room republicans physically got in the faces of the democrats to protest these proceedings. >> a wild scene in washington today, when two dozen house conservatives stormed the impeachment hearing room in protest and refused to leave >> seth: these guys are truly so dumb i mean, look at this group of angry weirdos at their press conference this morning announcing they were going to storm the hearing room i haven't seen a group of white guys that angry since they found out their don henley tickets were obstructed view [ light laughter ] looks like a protest outside a pharmacy that ran out of viagra. [ laughter and applause and they shouldn't be at the capitol. they should be standing at the counter at a mcdonald's demanding to see the manager [ laughter ] and even while trump and his team are confessing on tv, democrats in the house are still gathering evidence as part of the impeachment inquiry. yesterday, the top u.s. diplomat in ukraine, bill taylor, testified that there was in fact an explicit quid pro quo in which trump held up hundreds of millions of dollars in military aid to ukraine in exchange for a pledge to investigate his political rivals according to reports, taylor's opening statement was 15 pages long and prompted a lot of sighs and gasps. and unless you're reading aloud from your book of erotica that is not good. [ laughter ] as a general rule, it is never good to hear sighs or gasps. it never means you are innocent. [ light laughter ] there are only two reasons why room full of people gasp when someone makes a shocking accusation in court, or when you and your buddies are watching a super-cut of skate board fails [ laughter ] "oh, damn. rudy tried to do an ollie and got the skateboard wedged up his ass. [ laughter ] people in the room called taylor's testimony disturbing and said he drew a direct line between president trump's withholding of aid for ukraine and his demand for investigation into joe biden and the democrats. and taylor, reportedly backed up all of his assertions with detailed notes and evidence. >> he is backing up himself in this case, taylor is, with an opening statement that i'm told relies on meticulous notes this is apparently a life-long habit of his to take meticulous notes about meetings and phone calls in which he was a participant. so, taylor perhaps more than any other witness, has come with his own paper trail in place a 15-page opening statement. >> seth: 15 pages. the only good news for trump is there is no way he's capable of reading a 15-page document [ laughter ] i doubt trump ever made it all the way through a snapple cap. [ laughter ] "a duck's quack does not - somebody else read the rest of this for me. [ laughter ] then summarize it for me in a memo." [ laughter ] also no phrase has ever been more terrifying for a guy like trump than the words "paper trail. he's new york city real estate developer and casino owner who cheats on his taxes. the only paper trail he's ever kept is the toilet paper on the bottom of his shoe [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause trump has always thought of himself as untouchable, but now he is finally facing real consequences support for impeachment is rising in the polls. more and more people are coming to the conclusion that you can't just subvert the entirety of american foreign policy to your personal political will and dangle hundreds of millions of dollars as part of a corrupt quid pro quo to investigate your political rivals because, to put it mildly -- >> that is, after all, against the law. >> seth: this has been "a closer look." ♪ [ cheers and applause we'll be right back with jessica biel, everybody. 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[ cheers and applause thanks for being here, terrance. >> thank you, seth >> seth: our first guest tonight is an emmy and golden globe-nominated actress you know from shows such as "the sinner" and "7th heaven." she stars in and executive produces "limetown," which is available to stream on facebook watch. let's take a look. >> because my truth is that once you left, emile, there was no peace. limetown was the disappearance of you and knowing what happened there -- knowing what happened there, i would -- i'd kill for it. and i would die for it >> seth: please welcome back to the show jessica biel, everybody. [ cheers and applause ♪ >> seth: how are you >> i'm good. how are you? >> seth: it's always wonderful -- you're crying game is just exceptional. >> i don't know what's wrong with me. it just wants to come out. >> seth: i feel like - >> just tears and snot and - >> seth: "the sinner" was a really wonderful, snotty, tearful performance. [ laughter ] >> i know. >> seth: and then -- and you're right back at it, which is very exciting for all of us who love watching you cry. >> i love snotting - [ light laughter ] >> seth: yeah. >> in public it's my thing, i guess >> seth: it's really - i mean, some people just aren't good at it but i mean, you just bring it. >> i'm going to just teach a class on that. >> seth: yeah? [ laughter ] this is -- last time you were here, we were talking about the second season of "the sinner." >> right >> seth: which you were only producing at that point. >> that's right. >> seth: you were no longer in it >> yeah. >> seth: this is a show you are producing and acting in. is it nice to be on both sides of the camera again? >> i love it >> seth: yeah. >> i do. i mean, i love the development process with the writers and, you know, understanding the character before you ever step on set. you actually -- you have such a voice and it's such a collaborative experience and for -- as an artist, for me it's the best thing. i love it, i love it so much >> seth: well, it's nice too, because then, you know, the opposite, obviously -- and there are great projects but you walk into it and sort of right off the bat are kind of figuring out, sometimes even day one. so it's nice to have months and months to prepare for it >> absolutely, because by the time you get to the end of the project you go, "oh, i get it now. >> seth: yeah. >> "i know what this is. and they're like, "and it's a wrap." [ laughter ] >> seth: yeah. >> and the wrap party. you're like, "argh." >> seth: you did -- as a producer you got to choose the hair you had a say in the hair. >> yes >> seth: do you like - are we happy with the wig you ended up with for your character? >> i love it >> seth: yeah. >> i think it's super cool it's fun to have that, you know, discussion with your director, and your other producers, and everybody about the look, about the wardrobe i mean, this hair specifically - interestingly enough, our director rebecca thomas, she was really interested in this character being like really, you know, face to the world. no fringe. no hair in the face. just, like, open face and a vulnerable neck -- >> seth: oh, wow >> was what she really wanted. i loved that detail -- >> seth: yeah, i - >> so much [ laughter ] i was like, "we must have a vulnerable neck. >> seth: we were -- and i think during the clip, we were all thinking that. like that -- [ laughter ] >> right you were, i know >> seth: that is a vul-ner-able neck >> look at that neck [ laughter ] >> seth: you -- this is -- so this is based on a fictional podcast -- an actual podcast. >> right >> seth: the podcast isn't fiction, but it is - >> right >> seth: it's sort of a bit of a narrative story that did not really happen. but it's sort of - >> right >> seth: true crime-y. >> yes >> seth: you are a true crime podcast listener >> huge fan. >> seth: yeah. >> love it want true crime all day. >> seth: gotcha. >> everyday. love it. >> seth: do you, like, listen to it while you're doing other things >> oh, yeah. >> seth: okay. >> i listen to it while i work out. >> seth: so see, that's interesting. >> is that weird >> seth: it -- i do think it is. yeah >> okay. [ laughter ] >> seth: i don't think you're alone. i don't want to think -- >> okay, i don't think so either >> seth: i feel like a lot of people - but for me, i like to listen to some true crime podcasts on a commute. >> yep, on a commute >> seth: but if i'm exercising, i don't -- there's nothing like, "yeah, catch him. [ laughter ] >> i know, but it is -- that's such a good time - >> seth: okay. >> that i have >> seth: gotcha. >> 'cause you know when you have kids - >> seth: yeah. >> your time is limited. >> seth: well for me, i like to listen to my true crime stuff with the kids. >> oh, yeah, yeah. >> seth: i feel like - [ laughter ] >> you're right. what am i doing? >> seth: it just bring us together as a family >> what am i thinking? >> seth: i'm always like, "that's just a lesson. don't leave a fingerprint. [ laughter ] it helps them wash them hands. i'm just using it aa a - yeah >> this is such a good idea. please, i need these fatherly advice >> seth: these are very, very helpful tips do you not - can you handle when, obviously, some of them get a little gruesome are you okay with that -- that part >> i have no problem with gore >> seth: okay, interesting >> which is also weird, i guess? but i mean, i think i used to be more into blood and guts everywhere especially if you're watching something and it's like a horror - i was a horror fan >> seth: you like that okay >> i like that kind of thing >> seth: mm-hmm. >> now as i've gotten older, i really can appreciate that i can do the best job in my own mind of - >> seth: oh, interesting yeah >> creating how awful, how terrifying it really is. [ light laughter ] >> seth: gotcha. >> so, less is more. >> seth: oh, that's cool >> i'm thinking now. >> seth: yeah. >> but i have no problem with gore at all. >> seth: you're just very refined now. >> that's right. >> seth: and you're like, "just give me a few words and i'll take it from there." [ laughter ] >> like an aged wine >> seth: yeah. >> just very, very -- like a vintage. >> seth: you sort of play an npr-type host on the show. >> yes >> seth: do you feel like -- you have a wonderful voice for it. would you like to do a podcast yourself one day about horrific things [ laughter ] >> yes >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] >> i would love it >> seth: yeah. >> i mean, it's -- it's so fun there's such a fun quality of working, but not having to be on camera, i think. you know >> seth: yes >> just using your voice or doing something like animated film or whatever it's so interesting. >> seth: well, it's true >> it's such a different medium. >> seth: i feel like, for like 20 years it felt the really smart people were the ones who were doing animated film >> that's right. >> seth: 'cause that was like three days work on a movie that made hundreds of millions of dollars. >> yes >> seth: and you just like dined out the rest of your life. >> that's right. >> seth: and they're like, "how'd you buy this house? and you're like, "i was a raccoon in a" -- [ laughter ] >> exactly right >> seth: "i had two lines as a raccoon. and it was like a heist movie with -- yeah." but you -- [ laughter ] but now i feel like podcasts, that's the thing so you -- i feel like -- yeah. you got to jump into it, now that the world knows >> i'm in. i don't know what i'm going to talk about >> seth: yeah. >> but i would -- i can -- ooh, books on tape. >> seth: you -- oh, you want to do that? >> i could do that >> seth: yeah, definitely. >> 'cause i'm not sure if i have anything to say. but i could -- >> seth: well, i mean you could -- [ laughter ] >> you'd do other people's words. >> seth: i mean, i feel like if you do a true crime podcast like, you know, you do a little research ahead of time, they don't just like give you - >> well, i'd have to investigate. >> seth: they don't just like give you a thing and be like, "what happened explain. >> i have to be -- i have to be an investigative journalist >> seth: you want to be -- you want to actually get out there >> which is really i want to do. or like work in the morgue >> seth: okay, gotcha. >> it's like one or the other. [ laughter ] >> seth: you would work in a morgue >> i am fascinated by the -- by the human body, the anatomy. >> seth: i mean, i think - all right. >> i mean, when she's like, i want to see the muscles. >> seth: i hope this isn't a terrible idea. >> show me the thing show me the bones. yeah >> seth: you have a podcast. it takes place in a morgue and it's called "jessica biel what's - who's in this drawer?" and then - [ laughter ] and then you - and you just talk it through it's like -- [ cheers and applause >> who's gonna finance this? >> seth: i think anybody will. >> will you finance this for me? >> seth: yeah! it will be like those unboxing videos, but it's like, and now -- [ laughter ] >> oh, my god. >> seth: i am putting my hands on the blanket >> you're a genius >> seth: and i'm gonna pull it back, and -- [ laughter ] oh, boy. look at that uhh -- [ laughter ] what you -- you were just talking to me backstage. your son is four and a half? >> yeah. >> seth: you went to yellowstone. >> yeah. >> seth: when did you do that? >> we go -- i'd say we were there -- i think we were there in the summer >> seth: okay, gotcha. >> we always -- we can - i mean, we go if we can in the winter, always >> seth: and is he outdoorsy is he taking to the outdoors >> yeah. >> seth: okay. >> he loves it you know, little - >> seth: what do you guys do >> well, you know, we try to go on a hike, which is -- >> seth: yup >> about 30 feet down the trail. >> seth: yeah. >> and then your turn around, 'cause he did a good job and he found a stick. >> seth: right [ laughter ] >> you go, "woo, we did it." >> seth: it's like -- well, kids with sticks are basically, especially boys, they're like, "i don't think we're going to beat this, guys. >> yeah. [ laughter ] >> seth: "i feel like we should go back to the house and see what i can hit with this stick." >> that's true [ laughter ] exactly. >> seth: and then what about skiing 'cause your -- your son's a year older than mine. we're talking about, is this the winter we get him up on skis have you tried >> yes we tried, i think too early. >> seth: okay. >> he was two. >> seth: yeah. >> or two and a half >> seth: i mean, i've seen - i've seen videos of two and half year olds -- >> yeah, so have i >> seth: enjoying it >> not my kid. >> seth: yeah. right, right [ laughter ] >> my kid, he just -- he was just like, "what is this?" >> seth: yeah. >> and then you put the skis on and he was like, "really?" >> seth: yeah. right? [ laughter ] >> seriously >> seth: yeah. >> i can't even move in this giant -- i'm covered in down >> seth: right [ laughter ] >> i mean, he was not excited about it >> seth: and i do feel like if you have a bad first experience with something, that will set you back a decade. >> yeah, i'm worried >> seth: yeah. i'm a little worried about mine, too. but of course, the only -- i hate skiing. >> you do? >> seth: so -- yeah, i really do, and i grew up in a skiing family >> why do you hate it? >> seth: it's just like, i get it you know [ laughter ] >> you go down >> seth: yeah. >> you go up >> seth: and it's like, all right. >> you go back down. >> seth: so there's a place -- and that building over there a fire right? and i can read a book there? all right. >> see ya. [ light laughter ] >> seth: best of luck. [ laughter ] >> i get it, too >> seth: yeah. >> but i love it >> seth: i just -- yeah. >> i love it [ applause ] >> seth: you do love it. you grew up -- >> i love it >> seth: that's right, you grew up a skier >> i did but i'm a snowboarder and i have been for a long time and now i have to relearn how to ski. >> seth: oh, see that is another fear >> which is hilarious. >> seth: yeah, the other thing is - like, i feel like when your kid -- with your kid at some age decides to learn a foreign language, you could say, "you know what? i'm going to learn it with him." >> uh-huh. >> seth: because you will look the same >> right >> seth: but when an adult is learning to ski with their kids, you look dumb as [ bleep ] [ laughter ] >> you really do it is not a good look. >> jimmy: yeah, i feel like the window's closed. >> so bad. >> seth: i'm going to have to make up a story of like, "daddy was too good and they told him he couldn't ski anymore. >> that's right. [ laughter ] "daddy, get off the mountain you're embarrassing everybody. >> seth: "daddy made everybody else feel bad. yeah it is always so lovely to see you. congratulations on the show. >> so good to see you. >> seth: and thank you for coming back. >> thank you so much >> seth: that's jessica biel, everybody. [ cheers and applause "limetown" streaming now exclusively on facebook watch with new episodes on wednesdays. we'll be right back with jesse plemons. 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