possibly commissioner santacana. >> i would rather we stick this to the 4th for the continuity of the hearing and hope that something falls out. then we are in january. >> commissioner honda: can a representative for the permit holder come to the podium? the geotech. so what we are suggesting, sir, and i hate to be extremely frank, we don't trust that you are going to get this done in a timely manner to protect the neighboring property. that is just my honest feeling on this. my question here is, we don't want to go through winter here. what we would like to do is at the end of the hearing, you, your client, the next door neighbor, and the representative of the department go in the hallway and hash this out. so that we can make your property safe during the wintertime and that the rains don't effect it and we can assure that the neighboring property owner will be safe as well. what is your timeline to get this work done, is ir? >> this work as soon as they give us the permit, we will proceed right away. it's been delayed -- >> right away is not a time. week, month, days? >> how long w