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rick santorum calls it a war on scouts.ys the board is abandoning the organization's founding moral principles. the former presidential candidate thinks it's a challenge to the scouts' very nature, and there the left is trying to remove god. santorum also predicts every troop will get sued, or members will just simply leave. santorum calls this the end of scouting and says, quote, i hope the board of the scouts doesn't have its fingerprints on the murder weapon. texas governor rick perry is equally dramatic. >> what has worked very well for scouting and to have popular culture impact 100 years of their standards is inappropriate. >> but this isn't about a fad or popular culture. scouting membership has dropped 21% since the supreme court upheld the gay ban in 2000. adult membership is down 14%. and there are almost 13% fewer scouting units nationwide. boy scout sponsors know we're a center-left nation. people like santorum and perry pretty much by the numbers are out of step. let's turn to michael rogers, gay activist and m

i think rick santorum's campaign is a bad are memory for the people looking at the gop and trying to future. you know, as someone who reports on some of the more interesting fringes of the gop, i mean, i welcome him to the race. and i think it's important to say that he is doing this. he is a true believer. santorum believes that this is a mission of his to compete in these arenas and that he is acting on faith in a lot of ways and i kind of don't want to make fun of that but at the same time, as someone who would like to see a vibrant opposition party, don't know if rick santorum is what the gop needs right now. >> let's take a look at the guy

i think rick santorum's campaign is a bad are memory for the people looking at the gop and trying to future. you know, as someone who reports on some of the more interesting fringes of the gop, i mean, i welcome him to the race. and i think it's important to say that he is doing this. he is a true believer. santorum believes that this is a mission of his to compete in these arenas and that he is acting on faith in a lot of ways and i kind of don't want to make fun of that but at the same time, as someone who would like to see a vibrant opposition party, don't know if rick santorum is what the gop needs right now. >> let's take a look at the guy who everyone thinks is the leader of the vibrant opposition leader, marco rubio. let's listen to what he had to say. >> i really believe if i do the best job i can in the senate, then in a couple of years i'll be in a position to make a decision about whether i want to run for re-election, you know, leave politics and give someone else a shot, if i was thinking about things like that, it would limit my ability to take on important issues, it w

and rick santorum says timmy is inhabited by satan. and kevin said timmy burnside. >> yes, timmy burnside without lives down the street. >> yes. and then there's a section of which there is some really brilliant reporting in the times and i'm ashamed to say i don't include the reporters name in here. because i can't remember who it was. who talked about romney's lack of comfort with his fellow human beings, the way he said kind of odd things when he mingled with the crowd. i don't think that we've had anybody as uncomfortable with people since al gore really. >> rose: right, the two of them-- what is that? i mean they don't -- >> i don't know. >> rose: they don't like people. >> i think it's odd that they would choose politics. >> rose: or richard nixon. >> richard incomes on was that way, al gore i once referred to in a poem is a man like object. but one of the proceeds pieces has romney at his first g-8 summit meeting. >> rose: how was he there? >> he keeps saying things like are of french canadian origin. that was one of his favorit

do you believe your voice is being considered or rick santorum and other who is agree with him. >> i think it's the voice of the 21% of the boy scouts that exited the organization over the past 13 years. that's the voice. the voice of the president of the united states of america on sunday. i think the boy scouts are going to do what's right and come down and decide this policy does not work for gay youth. >> they want more deliberate review of the membership policy. what do you believe that means? >> this sounds like the don't ask don't tell policy in the military in the 90s. it took them 15, 16 years to overturn that policy. there is a tremendous amount of damage done during that time. the don't ask don't tell policy was dropped and it's a nonissue. once they stop being so fearful, they will realize this policy is only hurting them. >> i want to read what the southern baptist convention had to say. what they said to us and other religious leaders is they are doing this under pressure. we are going to give people what basically amounts to local option. you can't have a local option

like googling santorum while your grandma looks over your shoulder stupid. stupid and everybody knows it. >> democrats, republicans, business leaders and economists, they have already said that these cuts known here in washington as sequestration are a bad idea. >> if the looming sequester strikes, 70,000 young children would be kicked off headstart. 10,000 teacher jobs will be at risk. >> let me make clear i don't like the sequester. >> i think we should in bipartisan fashion stop sequestration before in the words of the secretary of defense destroys the pentagon. >> everybody hates this thing. but in addition to hating this thing and agreeing that it is a bad idea, it would be very bad for the country and we shouldn't do it, they also all agree that it's the other guy's fault. president obama held a press conference this week in which he said it was the republicans holding the country hostage. meanwhile, republicans have tried to make this a household word, obamaquester. john boehner really wanted to lay the sequester at the feet of the president, the obam

obviously senator santorum did not have the formidable apparatus that hillary clinton had. >> do you think that it had -- >> what do we know about the republican party? what do we know about mitt romney? [laughter] >> i think that is a testament. he did not begin this with a national or geographical or ideological base. in those debates, through skill, he took positions that people disagreed with like healthcare, but he given is the republican party that he had the qualities that he wanted to be the nominee. >> every week it was the new whack a mole. we went from perry to gingrich. >> herman cain was next. >> and then he blew up at the bloomberg debates. who were these? who were they? it seems like it was the same percentage of the electorate. >> governor perry was formidable. senator santorum -- anyone who underestimates him -- so much of running for president, the guys and gals who work the hardest -- senator santorum has the work ethic. >> the minute you say that, oh, that is right. [laughter] >> thank you. if we are going head to head, he could take away some of the votes that we

people like marco rubio, paul ryan, bobby jindal. >> greta: better say senator rick santorum. >> you look at people who come from humble beginnings that worked their way up. that lived the american dream. i think that's what our party is about. i think ultimately, greta, mitt romney ran a pretty good six month operation. >> greta: was he-- >> but the problem was. >> greta: a cheerful one or smile guy. >> the program barack obama ran a four-year operation and i think we won the math argument and i think we need a better job winning the heart argument and we'll work at it. >> greta: congratulations on recent victory, another run. >> thank you. >> greta: nice to see you, and tonight, there's information in turkey about the woman murdered in istanbul. reportedly telling police that he and sarai were having an affair. that's not all. the fbi doesn't believe she was there to take pictures. what do they mean by that. the and the senior reporter is here with the latest. and who was the guy she was having an affair with. >> we don't know a lot about him. it seems that he was questioned early

why does the college of cardinals like santorum as well as gingrich, bachman and rick perry. only problem there, of course, is that perry apparently has trouble remembering the holy trinity. >> father, son, and the... what's the third one there? let's see. >> you can't name the third one? the third one, i can't, sorry. ( cheers and applause ) >> jon: that's just last year's presidential candidates hardly in the running for pope >> i'm sorry, jon. you're absolutely right. would would they know about appealing to a floundering organization dominated by old white men clinging to an arcane moral code who must reluctantly embrace change to stay relevant? you're right. there's no crossover there at all, jon. not at all. i'm just going to go, jon, unless i'm being sarcastic in which case i think i'll actually stay >> jon: if that's the case, john, the church needs to rebrand as much as the g.o.p. does. they have to go latino. you're saying it's got to be pope rubio >> look at the numbers, jon. almost half of current catholics live in latin america. they're breeding like rabbits. the

man who's no stranger to the conservative wing of his party is former presidential candidate, rick santorum. what do you think of this snub of chris christie? i'm still recovering from rush limbaugh's throaty lust-a-thon for chris christie. >> he never said that about me, so -- look, al cardenas can invite who he wants. i look forward to go. we'll be doing a lot of things to talk and rally conservatives at a time as you look over my shoulder and look at that capital, you don't see a lot of conservatives fighting for the principles that made our country great. and hopefully we can rally at that cpac conference and move out the from there. >> all right. well, i'm still trying to understand, though, why this isn't -- i mean, you have this picture, right, of chris christie and barack obama, right before the election. and i know, by the way, today, mitt romney just gave money to chris christie's gubernatorial campaign. so mitt doesn't seem to be holding a grudge. but a lot of people were really upset about that, thought it was influential in the election. uh i'm just wondering if this was a part

is rick santorum, who is against this, a boy scout?ht the boy scouts should be allowed to decide what the boy scouts want to do. >> so rick santorum and richard land are saying something similarly. it was richard land who said the scouts will vote with their feet and leave. and rick santorum saying if the ban is lifted, the boy scouts may not survive. he might have a point. >> they have been arguing that, brooke, for years. if you let -- >> you don't buy it. >> a black person marry a white person, society will end. if you let gay and lesbian couples marry, society will end. that's an argument that has failed time and time again. and so to argue that we should discriminate because you want the boy scouts of america to survive is just a bunch of nonsense. and, again, i think you can't ever give anyone the license to discriminate and that's what this proposed ban does. >> they can raise money like the girl scouts. >> they can -- >> sell some cookies. >> they can -- if if they don't like the boy scouts it like watching a tv show. if you do

to work the hardest -- senator santorum have the work ethic. plen>> the minute you say that,, that is right. [laughter] >> thank you. if we are going head to head, he could take away some of the votes that we were going to garner. if they were up against governor palenti at that moment, that would have been more challenging. i think that was a 24 debate. >> 21 were on horrible networks. the good ones are on nbc. i know that. [laughter] >> is a pretty formidable debate opponent. -- he is a pretty formidable debate opponent. you have to go out. someone will be the anti--mitt or anti-kerry. it is at a different situation in 2008 with the anti-bush. people at certain points in the campaign were not completely ready to close the deal. they went shopping elsewhere. during the primary, our campaign did a good job at whack a mole or whatever you want to call it. >> by the way, i went to give you credit. come one. -- come one. >> we were the campaign of people who were not even in the race. >> one guy was saying newt early on before anyone else did. >>

joins me from washington, alex stewart, spokesman for former republican presidential candidate rick santorume rock, arkansas. both of you thanks for being here today. so much to talk about, so much focus on the budget cuts. we've heard the doom and gloom scenario what could happen, everything from meat inspections to tsa security checkpoints, all of that could be impacted. why is this so hard to get done, and alison, i'm going to start with you? >> if we knew the answer to that, we wouldn't be in this situation we are, deb. it's unfortunate when it comes to the big issues, the can gets kicked down the road to the end of the road. we have folks on recess and not playing golf and not addressing the issue. i'm afraid we have to deal with sequestration and going to face these cuts because we need to replace the sequestration with serious deficit reduction and the democrats aren't doing that. the republicans have come forward with serious cuts, that don't involve tax increases and that's how we need to go about doing this. the democrats seem to want to increase taxes and that's not how we're goin