santorum was next in line. not only did santorum not to the nomination, but another man.ooks to buy the republican party if donald trump fails as the logical inheritor, oral people move on -- or will people move on. >> i think he is this voice for freedom, the constitution, and so forth. if you need the party to rely on, he doesn't have the groundwork for that. does he have a passion among a certain grassroots activist voter? yes, he does. will he have the organization. i think there is a strong case to make for that. will times be different then? will there be a pendulum back to a more traditional next man of scenario in four years? it is hard to imagine, but i think he was to remain a national voice. john: is there a way given the things he said about donald trump that he could end up supporting donald trump? >> i think his main problem here was the trust issue at the end of the day. if you are playing back-to-back clips of what ted cruz had to say about donald trump versus him saying nice things, it poses a real credibility problem if he wants to move forward. the answ

. >> reporter: graham, bush, and another challenger rick santorum signed a pledge promising to summit t who it is. it wasn't so long lockdown. thousands of security forces eprevent a ofhich l tonight. charlie. >> reporter: we so those heavily armed security forces everywhere today, scott, new blast walls that sprung up overnight, rows of armored personnel carriers, even tanks, and we were forbidden from filming any of it. and here's why. last weekend, thousands of protesters stormed the green zone and overran parliament accusing the government of corruption. it looked like an uprising. they were acting largely on the powerful shiite cordon meant his supporters were confined to sadr city, sprawling shi'a said. "look at the poor, the hungry. there's no electricity, no drinkable water and no jobs. how shameful is that?" we asked muqtada al-sadr's deputy, hakim al zamani, about sadr's strategy. is there a danger of destabilizing this government at a time when this country is at war with isis? "for 13 years all we've gotten are bombings, corruption, very little sec and isis," he said. "we'

santorum looks up and said those hands dug freedom for me. i don't agree with rick santorum on much of anything, but i loved that line. it also spoke to this working class part of the republican party. and then the last thing about trump that i think is most surprising is, you know, not only did he nail down this nomination, he got to where he was with victories in very conservative states like arkansas, tennessee, and alabama. but he nailed it down in states like new york and pennsylvania. and i think oddly trump and stand greenberg, the democratic pollster, wrote a very good piece on this. there were a lot of moderate republicans who felt they had no place to go. even more moderate candidates were actually quite conservative so trump, by default, also picked up some moderate republican votes. so he had this very peculiar coalition, and it's one reason why there's still a lot of conservatives who don't trust him. neoconservatives think he is not interventionist enough on foreign policy. fiscal conservatives wonder, you know, is he a dealmake

>> when i was behind santorum i was fantasizing who would you good where. imagining all the different disparages. who would be best to kind of had that up. maybe mitt romney would soften a littlebit. trish: he has shown very few signs of softening on trump. does he need to do that? does the republican party need to just get over it and coalesce aroundthis one man that may be their only chance of beating hillary? >> everyone is concerned that he is not as conservative as he ought to be. we are not confused about hillary clinton. what she stands for. mitt romney never wants to have their legacy to allow hillary clinton to appoint three court justices. they will be a welcomed addition. i think it is exciting to see the people that donald trump is bringing into the equation that were not there before. trish: you think about the clintons economic record. nafta was very much a part of that. estimating 700,000 jobs that have been lost as a result. you think about the need for our own economy to grow. the need for our middle class to prosper. this is something that

he's not a rick santorum.e's bill clinton without the really bad allegations of exposure and so forth against him. he's just taking the fight away from him. he's making hillary live by her own code. >> in some weird way, he's making them fight on policy. >> how so? >> because he's saying don't go into all this personal stuff because i will overwhelm you with mud. let's talk about i want to talk about, bidding a wall against mexico. talk about whether trade is doing anything good for the united states or his energy policy or his tax policy. problem is is, trump himself seems to step on his own message by getting personal. >> would it be better if he linked that past behavior to the clinton foundation and to the e-mail scandal so you can make it look contemporary? it's not just about the 1990s. this is how they governed in between time in office and when she was in office and this is what they will take to the white house. that kind of a system attic case trump doesn't make. he goes about the e-mail scandal. not

i think that's something that it was i think not a bad move because remember rick santorum and newt gingrich saw this in 2012 and couldn't deswhid was vp and who was president. it's des pir ration time for kasich and cruz. >> there was also other development this week protests donald trump rallies not quite like to though. this was a different tone. there were violence that broke out and small fires we believed that were set as well this was the scene when donald trump was making his way is this a taste of what we see in cleveland. this summer because we know there are always protests at every political convention there are protests at democratic conventions as well. this sets the stage. . >> certainly i immediately thought of cleveland when i saw this happen. i think it's a little unfair when this is reported. is it all goes to trump. many are opposed to trump causing violence and there's trump supporters accused of violence as well. it continues to speak to the aminger that's at a different level than we're used to. i'm not su responsibility or role is in this. if these are democratic supp

. >> reporter: graham, bush, and another trump challenger, rick santorum, signed a pledge promising to support the nominee, no matter who it is. scott, it wasn't so long ago that g.o.p. anxiety around that pledge revolved around trump's fidelity to it, not anyone else's. >> pelley: major garrett, thanks. today, a political crisis has much of baghdad in lockdown. thousands of security forces were deployed to prevent a repeat of last week when protesters broke into the so- called green zone which houses iraqi government offices, foreign embassies, and the united states embassy. charlie d'agata is in baghdad tonight. charlie? >> reporter: we saw those ceavily armed security forces everywhere today, scott, new blast walls that sprung up overnight, rows of armored personnel carriers, even tanks, and we were forbidden from filming any of it. and here's why. last weekend, thousands of protesters stormed the green zone and overran parliament, accusing the government of corruption. it looked like an uprising. they were acting largely on the orders of muqtada al-sadr, the powerful shiite cleric

he backed rick santorum. thanks for coming on. >> pamela, it's a delight to be here with you.tion. >> after senator santorum ended his 2016 bid, you were quoted as saying, in your words, that you would enthusiastically report the republican nominee. we know donald trump is the presumptive republican nominee. have you had any discussions with the trump campaign? do you plan to support him? >> well, i think as a republican i sure will support him. i like what sheldon said, that we're republicans, and there's a certain loyalty not so much to republicans but to american values, and i think what america stands for and what our founding fathers went through, we just can't give that up to go to a european socialistic orientation, so i'm certainly going to support our nominee the best i can both enthusiastically financially and also with some encouragement. >> well, the last election mitt romney and hillary clinton each raised a billion dollars. donald trump says up until now he's been using his own money. do you think that he's going to be able to raise that much money, particularly

that's when rick santorum and newt gingrich got out of race. what share had romney won? he won 41.5%. how about this? four years earlier, john mccain, what share did he have? he had 39.9%. he was under 40. he still managed to get 90% of the republicans in the fall. mitt romney, 41.5%. he clenched the nomination. john mccain, 39.9%. what was donald trump's number? it was over 40. he did better than mccain, almost as well as romney. neither did those guys get a majority. >> thanks. >> tlp prump doesn't understand the situation he's in. he's capture only one or two wings of the party. there's also what i call the congressional wing. that's fred. as trump is said to meet later this week in the house and senate, can he make amends or should he? with me is former u.s. congressman, a republican from virginia and april ryan. thank you both. i want to start with tom davis. is he coming as the boss or a job seeker, which is it? i think ryan is treating him like a job seeker. >> it's a bit of both. they need each other at this point. he's not going to win without buy in from the co

the kind of guy who and bet another cycle the next in line with 2020 comes around, or is he rick santorum >> it was an intriguing cliffhanger. i think he is certainly speaking about it. he hinted in a the other presidential candidates have not done. he talked about the ronald ourgan speech in 1976, f years before he won. he is drawing these analogs. he's built it piece by piece, brick by brick. 020, he has 30 years to figure out how to be president. john: the million things that donald trump wrote this year was broke the notion of the republican party. he was next in line, number two in 2012. not only did he did not get the guynation, is ted cruz the who will be looked to by the republican party if donald trump fails as the inheritor, or will people be like let's move on to something else? >> he will be a voice for freedom, the constitution and so forth. if you need the party to rely on, he doesn't have the groundwork for that. does he have a passion among a certain grassroots activist voter? yes, he does. will he have the organization. i think there is a strong case to make for that. wil

she's with "time magazine" and john is a former senior strategists for the santorum presidential campaign. let me go to jeremy. i know you have to speak for your newspaper, but how would you report on this back and forth he found a women not happy with the way the story was presented and said she was not by her terms exploited or abused or humiliated she says. the author of the piece should she wouldn't be portrayed that way. she's not happy about and it i can understand if she's right she would be. trump also pointed out there were some 50 women interviewed only four or five quoted in the piece which he suggested other women had good things to say about him. can you comment on that? >> i'll let this story speak for itself. what i will say -- >> both sides of it? >> trump did tweet something inaccurate the women interviewed for the story. he did. the reporter did a fine job reporting this piece pointed out that he did interview the women that the trump campaign told them to talk to and so that part of what trump pushed back on was not accurate. the beauty of the piece is it is very inappr

. >> joining us in the war room tonight, john, a vet aren are of rick santorum's campaigns and rebeccaple watch that and say silly, silly, silly. but when you're looking at the monitors in the war room at trump rallies and trump saying these kinds of things, you've got to think very seriously. how do you reply, which things don't you reply to. >> and donald trump can't win the presidency on white men alone. america is bigger than that. so, they have to pick their spots. usually if your opponent says something egregious, you hit him with it but since that's every other word, they go to the audience and hit it home. >> hillary clinton and bernie sanders can argue with each other about whether a given proposal is adequately funded by what they're doing in taxation or other budget adjustments. this kind of serious accounting. prove to me that your program will work. that sort of thing seems to have nothing to do with dealing with donald trump as a political candidate. so, when you're in the clinton war room and accustomed to challenging whether born bernie sanders has paid for his health c

every time a candidate came up from the base -- bachmann, mccain, santorum, huckabee, one crazier thanhe other -- every time one rose from the base, the republican establishment sought to beat them down and get their own -- get their own man -- you know, romney. and they succeeded, until this year. this year the same thing happened and they didn't succeed. the pressure from the base was too great for them to beat it back. now, that is the disaster that the republican establishment sees. but the phenomenon goes way back. and it has roots. it's kind of like jihadis -- you have to ask about the roots. what are the roots? the republican -- both political parties have shifted to the right during the neoliberal period -- the period, you know, since reagan, goes back to late carter, escalated under reagan -- during this period, which has been a period of stagnation and decline for much of the population in many ways -- wages, benefits, security and so on -- along with enormous wealth concentrated in a tiny fraction of the population, mostly financial institutions, which are -- have a dubious,

you saw hints of it in the huckabee campaign in '08, hints of it in the tea party in '10, in rick santorum's campaign in 2012. i think donald trump was able to tap into that and get those people who normally didn't vote in primaries to vote in primaries in large numbers, and it gave him that early boost that got him going on the momentum front, and the rest from that snowballed. >> donald trump has gotten a lot of support from good, god fearing americans, also from some pretty scary dudes, white nationalists out there. before some of the primaries, some of these hate groups did robocalls on his behalf, make sure to elect donald trump and not the cubans. did you ever hear about that stuff? >> i did. it's offensive. not just against me, but the fact that elements like that are still involved in american candidates. traditionally a candidate would disavow that, say i don't want anything to do with them. >> he didn't. >> and i didn't like that, and i said that at the time. it is what it is. obviously i don't believe that donald trump is a white nationalist. i don't believe that those are his vie

rick santorum to dropped out of the race in february is backing trump saying he was swayed as trump's of supreme court nominees. trump will hold his first fund-raiser in albuquerque, $10,000 a ticket and he has another big fund-raiser in los angeles tomorrow. he has raised nearly $6 million in less than 72 hours for that los angeles event. with us, dr. ben carson. trump has repeatedly slammed fund-raisers like the one he's hosting tonight and he's bragged until the cows come home about fund being his own campaign. i've talked to donors, at lot of them are hesitant. they want him to put a lot of his own money in the game. are you starting to see big donors come on board? >> yes, there are big donors who are getting very interested. right now i think there's some confusion as who which one of the super pacs to commit to and i think that's in the process of being worked out. but i think the donors will come. they recognize that it's more of an investment. you can invest your money in this campaign of donald trump and somebody who believes in traditional american principles or you can hol

>> they talked to -- and santorum put name out. >> anyway, thank you, john brabender and margaret andd an interesting panel. >>> when we come back, something close tohome. philly, philly, philly. you're watching "hardball" the place for politics. shield technologies. whoa! like forward emergency braking that could stop your car for you. save even more with holiday bonus cash this memorial day, during nissan's safety today event. for a limited time, save up to $1,500 on the 2016 nissan rogue with $500 memorial day bonus cash. where can i buy it? sign me up! shop your local nissan store and choosenissan.com today. ♪ because you can't beat zero heartburn! i take prilosec otc each morning for my frequent heartburn ahhh the sweet taste of victory! prilosec otc. one pill each morning. 24 hours. zero heartburn. ♪ one♪coat, yes! one coat guaranteed marquee interior. behr's most advanced paint. get the best paint for any budget and save 10 or 40 bucks. only at the home depot. man, it's like pure power at your finger tips. like the power to earn allstate reward points, every time i drive. ...wa

you see people like rick santorum.ou see a lot of people, establishment republicans, conservative republicans, getting on board. shame on her as the head of the republican governor's association for not. >> there's two different things going on here, though. there's the -- how do you get on board, how do you agree on policy or disagree. versus donald trump's abusive language. and he's abusive towards women, democrat or republican women. this is the kind of standard and the environment that he's creating. and it's a sham. it's a complete -- >> what i'm saying -- >> what i'm saying is, it's fine to say come and meet, let's talk about policy. how do we come together and unify. but the kind of abusive language that donald trump uses repeat repeatedly against particularly women but against men and women -- >> no. >> is the language abusive, reuben? >> if you look at when he went to go and see paul ryan -- so and now to say that governor martinez should come and see him, there's a double standard here. there's a difference i

strong along the coast but not in the south and heartland, and candidates like huckabee in 2008 and santorum in 2012 who are the reverse. trump's coalition held together in all parts of the country. in terms of the republican primary, that was a pretty dominating consistent performance. >> that's the republican primary. >> this is very important. ron's making a good point. trump has a very broad coalition among republican voters. he has won hispanics and african-americans the same way we are winning viewers who don't want television when it's dark outside. there aren't that many of them, and the general election picture is a drastically different picture than the republican primary picture. >> and that's what's wrong with people say that trump has been the ultimate teflon candidate. within the context of the republican party, it was largely true although not entirely true there. but beyond that, he is facing historically high unfavorable ratings among african-americans, hispanics, millennials and women. he has shown himself to be an agile politician. he's going to move in all sorts of unpred

i was there when rick santorum lost, and i remember his family, his children crying.emotion, because you sensed it that day, that it was different. >> a couple of things happened that made your antenna go up. ted and heidi cruz were walking into the event and came about this group of fifth graders and they were shaking hands and high-fiving and there was this moment where mrs. cruz was crying. she was touched. i asked her about it. and she said, sometimes kids can see the truth that adults cannot see. as she got into her car, she started to choke up. cruz also you saw in that exchange. his campaign has been dogged by that question for weeks. he had been dogged by that question. he was frustrated with that question for a long time. >> for months. >> in march, we had a similar scene. >> and on the campaign stage. >> with the trump folks, i spoke with some republicans who said they had gotten a call that day, they had a sense. but for the outside public, a lot of people didn't think that was going to happen. >> from what i was told by people who were in the room with don

. >> i was there when rick santorum lost his senate race and i remember his family and his children cryingk about the emotion a little bit. because you sensed it a little bit that day, it was different. >> a couple of things happened that kind of made your antenna go up. heidi cruz and ted cruz were walking into this event and fontainiously came upon this group of fifth graders at an elementary group across the street and they shook hands and high-fiving and mrs. cruz was crying. she was visibly touched and i asked her about it when she was getting in the car to leave and i said what was that. sometimes the kids can see the truth that adults cannot see and as she got into the car she started to choke up. and cruz also you saw in that exchange -- listen, his campaign dogged by that question for weeks and he was frustrated with that question. >> for months. >> march we had a similar exchange where he again sort of refused -- >> and the debate stage they were at it. >> the trump folks -- i folk with some republicans who said they had gotten a call that day. they had a sense. but for the outsi

polls and everybody watched that and said, how can i harbor my resources so i can stay in as long as santorumo is the one who measured the resources enough to stay in for the long run. nobody wanted to be the tim pawlenty who dropped out too early and no one was. >> waiting for the lightning bolt that never came, though. >> right. it's not there. >> looking ahead to the fall, trump versus hillary clinton, these debates, this could be the most watched event in history. >> if he shows up for the debates. you know, he's set a precedent for not showing up for debate in the primaries. he has to agree to do the debates. he may look at the polls and think, what can the debates do for me? there's nothing positive they can do for me. he doesn't have to show up. and they won't hold them. they won't just stand there and ask questions of hillary clinton. so he may make the tactical decision not to show up for those debates, but if he does, i think he will probably be able to survive the debates reasonable well. they kind of announce the basic jurisdiction of a debate. this one's about foreign policy, thi

when newt gingrich and rick santorum dropped out of the race and we could call mitt romney the presumptivef the vote. because there were still primaries to come he got big margins in the later primaries. his final total was over fuf50%. that's probably going to happen with trump. and mitt romney on election day, 93% of republicans went out and voted for him in the fall. it's not just mitt romney. when john mccain clinched the nomination in 2008, he had less than 40% of the republican vote. he had 39.9%. he got 90% of republicans in the fall. so think about that. 41.5% is what romney got to clinch the nomination. 39.9% is what mccain got. trump got 40.2. he's right in the middle. it's less than 50 but also what the last two republican nominees got. no different from that standpoint. worth keeping in mind as we talk about this question of unity on the republican side. >>> coming up, the kentucky derby was held on saturday. it was an exciting race. but the favorite won. can they put an underdog in there. four straight years the favorite has won. but a surprising face in the crowd at churchill

. >> two-time republican presidential candidate senator rick santorum goes "on the record."reat to see you, sir. >> it's great to be with you. >> you were here once before with an endorsement senator marco rubio. how did that work out. >> it didn't work out so well. >> do you have a new one. >> well, yes. you know, i had a good conversation with donald about 10 or 12 days ago. we talked about supporting him. and he asked for my endorsement. and i said what i needed was to deal with the most important issue. i was at a funeral three months ago of justice scale. it just hit me right between the eyes. the most important issue right now is to preserve the constitution. if the next president appoints a progressive justice, throw on top of that replacing ginsburg and breyer, you are going to have five progressive all that liberal justices that will rewrite the constitution in the next 25 years of america is going to be changed. my number one thing was give me a list of candidates that you will pick from and pledge to pick from that list. if those names are names that i can support

you had santorum second last time, huckabee second two times ago and you had a bush. and trufer, you know, again i reason i say such an incredible achievement, of a dozen people, none had top level presidential campaign experience. >> rose: that is the kind of campaign he ran. >> it is. but to win-- i understand but to win the nomination like that, and again, you could be-- you could be the most anti-trump person in the world, you cannot deny what skill he exhibited. >> rose: i hear you saying and tell me if i'm wrong, in the end you can't quite explain it. why he has been able to do this. >> well. >> rose: you know the general sense of unease in the country about the direction of the country. >> and regular politicians can't change it. >> rose: and the establishment, institutions can't change. >> yeah. that was there, that it was-- that whole politicians. >> rose:hat is interesting about it is whether someone else could have tapped into it the way he has tapped into it. i mean everybody looked-- this is not a new ideal. we understand that there say great feeling, tha

rick perry behind donald trump and rick santorum. a lot of republicans from different lanes of the party and as well as many of donald trump's former rivals in the race starting to come around to the new normal and that is whether they love him or hate him, donald trump has gotten to that magic number. he's the presumptive republican nominee and likely face off against hillary clinton in the general election providing she clinches her party's nomination. the calculus is they may not love everything he says and maybe counsel him along the party orthodoxy and most likely got. doesn't seem to be a third candidate and everyone was whispering about, that new person to come out as an insurgent doesn't seem to be that. >> maybe fair weather enemies. all right. dana, juana, thanks so much to both of you. moments from now, bernie sanders speaking live in san pedro, california. amid growing buzz of a hypothetical prize fight. sanders versus trump. a one on one debate. sanders says he's ready. democratic party leaders having none of it and open

mike huckabee and rick santorum were with him. of the last several months, we've been getting conflicting stories as to how much money was being raised, who was getting it's money. there were veterans groups saying we haven't gotten the money, and in just the last few weeks, corey lewandowski, said the money was near $4.5 million, $5 million and then donald trump himself said, no, no, no, it's between $5.5 million and $6 million. we hope to find out in the next hour when donald trump hold his news conference inside trump tower, how much money was raised, where did it come from, who is getting the money, and so on. we expect to have those details. donald trump has said he will give us the details in the coming minutes. but, carol, as you mentioned at the top of the hour, there are other questions for donald trump to answer this morning. hopefully we'll get those answers. over the weekend bill kristol, the noted neoconservative in washington, he floated out the idea that he's going to have details and there will be more details comi

guys who had run before like huckabee and santorum. at some point pick your sport. other guy. >> this is what happens when you have a party that hasn't listened to its voters that it's surprised and stunned by the fact oh wait a minute the voters are angry out there, wait a minute the voters feel betrayed by us this is a testament to donald trump and his political skill i would argue, but also tells you an awful lot about an out of touch republican establishment with its own base. >> go ahead. >> certainly, but i think it also speaks to the fact that if donald trump and ted cruz two outsiders still standing in this, but where cruz goes from here, i don't know what he's going to do tonight or what he's going to do tomorrow, but given the behavior that donald trump has shown towards cruz and his family, i think cruz is going to be in it at least for one or two more weeks just to make a point. >> he's already sooeded two states. >> ted cruz is a man of principal and there are things that are wrong with donald trump on both personality and policy. i would advise ted cru

taking on entilement reform, with the exception of 1990s, republican congress in the person of rick santorumorced welfare reform and president clinton vetoed it three times and he finally signed it. that was really the last time you saw any real reform to entitlements. certainly something that should be a part of this debate. but for small business members, of nfib, they mention in all of our surveys that taxes, regulation and health care costs are things costing them profits. they can not raise prices and they're having very difficult time hiring. neil: juanita, thank you very much. excuse me cough. i apologize for that. the nfib ceo and president, argues on behalf of her members quite well and forcefully. we're watching a couple of developments here. hillary clinton gathering with unions. wants to put a fiber-optic al death blow to bernie sanders in california but polls are dead-even there, can you imagine she loses there, even though she might get delegates she might need to get the nomination. she goes into philadelphia limping. donald trump may have been watching that exchange with alan

. >> a lot of folks mentioned it and that's the to the that rick santorum was giving.me, sir, thanks for staying up with us. heather? >> you were talking about the demographics and how the electoral votes could change. hillary clinton state, utah now. >> our political views. >> we will get a coffee and a donut. that's coming up. ♪ ♪ it was always just a hobby. something you did for fun. until the day it became something much more. and that is why you invest. the best returns aren't just measured in dollars. td ameritrade. our panel. they have been with us all night m ellen and -- ellen and judy and tone fee. i start with you, ellen. >> quick, i think there is not just going to be a reform in the republican party, but i think all of this points to a reform in the democratic party that may happen around not having caucuses anymore and perhaps limiting the role of super delegate. >> that would be huge. since we are here in america we are exemtion exceptional -- exexceptional. we are experiencing it across the world the kind of populous upheaval. a demand for outsiders. wh

he did better than rick santorum did the last time and better than mike huckabee, so he's got a lot ofuld be your running mate? we asked if he has a short list and donald trump -- i'm sorry? okay, we have the sound bite on this. the producers are telling me. >> i'm getting calls from people that have said such terrible things about me and now they want to join. yesterday, i got one from somebody that was on your show and other shows. it was unbelievable how horribly -- now he calls, don, i'd like to join your team, is that okay? i actually asked him how do you do that? >> marco rubio, is he one of the people that reached out to you? >> well, he's been very nice,ly say. i have had a conversation with him. he's been terrific and he's a talented young guy and he's got great future. >> are you considering him for vp? >> well, i'm considering a lot of people, to be honest. and i'll let you guys know. but i really am. i'm considering a lot of people and we want to have great at every level, whether it's vp or anywhere else. >> ainsley, you were saying? >> so we were asking, you know, who do

. >> he basically matched what ted santorum did. that's good.r, ran a really good campaign, incredible infrastructure, went further than a lot of people thought. in the end what tripped him up is people don't like him. >> mika, saying that just isn't kind. >> i'm sorry. when you lose the "huffington post" and you're a conservative, you've lost it all. "morning joe" lost america when you lost sam stein. you're talking about how campaigns changed forever. the most shocking thing to me, ted cruz is the only person who seems to give a damn about organization. he had the best organization, the best people around him. you know what, it all starts at the top. you and i both know that a campaign reflects the person at the top. ted cruz wouldn't have won 11 states unless ted cruz wasn't extraordinarily focused. >> it's completely tied to why he got out last night. he is his own best political strategist. i'm sure it was his call entirely to get out last night because he saw there was no path forward. i will say he deserves a lot of credit for what he did

. >> that worked for rick santorum very well. >> that's the other argument. >> i heard that line. >>mpaign trail in california yesterday. hundreds of protesters and bernie sanders supporters d demonstrated outside the rally at east los angeles college. she was also interrupted by protesters inside the event. she tried to ignore them. the commotion forced her to wrap up early since the speech lasted all of 13 minutes. >> i got to say. it is so rude and so irritating for people to come in and interrupt a political speech, not so much for the person giving the speech, but for the thousands and thousands of people who took off work, took their kids out of school, fought hard to get to wherever the rally was, some of them driving hours to come there to hear their candidate speak and then to have people get up and scream. you want to protest, protest. do it, make your statement, get on tv and march out. but it's extraordinarily rude. >> hasn't that become the culture? it's not what you're for, it's what you're against. the againsters, the professional againsters are drowning out the people

as i recall, back in 2011, 2012, there were people that said things about me, whether it was rick santorumy attention to american politics know things are said, you get back together and you support the team. and that's what's going on here. you know, and i full well expect the republican party to fall in behind donald trump to help him get elected, because again, the alternative here is very, very different. it's very rank, if you will, from the standpoint of the difference between philosophically these two individuals and where they'll take this country. these supreme court appointments, the supreme court decisions will be substantial. >> you think you know which way donald trump would go, and you don't share the concern that let's say mitt romney or even paul ryan, i am a real conservative, as you say you are, governor, i don't know if this guy matches up with what i think matters. >> well, i agree with donald trump a whole lot more than i disagree with him on. whether it's dissolving power oh out of washington, d.c. back to the states, i would suggest that donald trump is one of the mo