in north korea f ever think about that thing about sapir leader i thought i would be punished. but look at the movie sony made, dictator got killed. that's why it's important for us to let the north korean people know that they are slaves and they can be like us. >> host: your mother was pretty loyal to north korea, correct? >> guest: yes, very loyal. yes, she, when the first kim died she did not know, she said that was the end of the universe. a lot of north koreans after they escape, even my case when i skipped to china, i was being raped and have suffering so much at the age of 13 when people are saying because of your, like you are so bad, history, i said he's a great leader. he's a great, great guy. that's what i did because i was so brainwashed. but my mom now knows about truth and is now i know about the truth. i think the only thing that i will make sure, lies don't have power. the media in the west, that's one thing i'm so sad about. we dehumanize north korean population. we kind of portrayed them as robbers whose brainwashed, who cannot understand the idea of freedom