i am skeptical about releasing someone who has committed an act like that, that goes for sara jane moore as well as john dingell he -- john hinckley. his -- he actually was not convicted in a sense, he was confined because he was judged to be insane. one of the aftermaths of this case was the federal insanity defense was changed. in most states, they made , so the insanity defense is not used as much anymore. very honest,o be can i point out one thing? that evening, late, about midnight after we were picking up the pieces in the washington field office, after we did a search of his room, we had to make two decisions, one of them was to choose a case agent. by that time, the agent in charge had come back, and we sat down and we gave a thought to who would be the case agent for this case. we chose a man who is here tonight, frank, he became the case agent. [laughter] -- [applause] court.the case through tom: what did he say? >> i said he did a great job. >> in the course of that, i kept my mouth shut. i said, this kid hinkley is crazy. and yet, the u.s. attorney's office and everybody else