cnn's sara murray joins us again. a lengthy response, sara, with plenty of exhibits. it a lengthy response. it is 14 pages long. and nowhere in these 14 pages does donald trump actually address the question or the demand rather from the subpoena that he provide testimony and documents to the committee. that remains unaddressed. you can probably guess what his response is going to be based on the tone of this letter, though, which is essentially railing against the january 6th committee. he calls them the unselect committee. he says this is another witch hunt. he goes through in these pages sort of repeating the falsehoods he has spread about the 2020 election. you mentioned the exhibits there. he runs through five different states that he has been sort of obsessed with in the wake of the 2020 election. again reiterated a lot of false claims we have seen from him before about the election. he also sort of in the form of donald trump says that the committee has not spent long enough focused on the crowd size that he got when he held his rally on january 6th. he also inc

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cnn's sara murray broke this story, she joins us live with that new reporting. this is significant? >> that's right, you know, my colleague zach cohen and i have discussed that they cooperated with her, and her cooperation could be interesting in part because of her access in the west wing, her promximity of working with chief of staff mark meadows. she obviously saw what happened in the west wing around the 2020 election. she could help shed light in the runup in the aftermath of the phone call between the former president and secretary of state brad raffensperger where trump asked brad raffensperger to find the votes needs. and then in 2020 there are things she could know about that we don't know publicly about, boris, so it's interesting for the cooperation with the prosecutors there. >> and the d.a. willis said this could go quiet. given they doesn't want any undue influence on the election. what do we know about the case, given that cassidy hutchinson is cooperating and could still get testimony from mark meadows and others? >> we do expect this to be a quie

cnn political kpant sara murray is on capitol hill. sara, the final hearing before the midterms later today. what do we expect to see and hear? >> we expect them to still drive home that trump remains a clear and present danger to democracy. we're not expecting live witnesses at this hearing. we do believe there's going to be new evidence. over the summer they interviewed a number of members of trump's cabinet, got over a million communications from u.s. secret service. we expect to see some of those emails. the cabinet members, people very high profile people in the trump administration, people who resigned after january 6th. we've also heard from members they want to try to highlight the ties between the former president's circle of advisers as well as domestic extremist groups. here is what jamie raskin said about that yesterday. >> the inner circle includes the three people that he pardoned between the election in november and january 6th, flynn, stone and bannon. i call them the flintstones, then absolutely there's abundant evidenc

sara murray, cnn, washington. >> mr. trump's subpoena came just hours after his former adviser, steve bannon, was sentenced to four months in prison for defying his own subpoena to appear before the january 6th committee. the contempt of congress conviction also carried a fine of $6,500. a federal judge says mr. bannon can stay out of prison for now while his conviction is appealed. >>> and a u.s. appeals court has temporarily blocked the president's student loan forgiveness program while it considers a challenge to it. it comes as joe biden has been touting his initiative to younger voters ahead of the midterm elections. >> republican members of congress and republican governors are doing everything they can to deny this relief even to their own constituents. as soon as i announced my administration's plan on student debt, they started attacking it, saying all kinds of things. their outrage is wrong, and it's hypocritical, but, you know, we're not letting them get away with it. you know, they've been fighting us in the

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cnn political correspondent sara murray's here with us in the situation room.out this? >> reporter: wolf, this was happening behind closed doors in a courthouse in washington, d.c. today. we saw the prosecutors that are dealing with the trump mar-a-lago documents dispute as well as members of trump's legal team, evan corcoran, lindsey halgon. this was all playing out behind closed doors, but what we have learned is this is part of the justice department's continuing request trump return any sensitive documents, any classified documents he still has in his possession. we know the justice department has been insist tpt in court filings as well as privately to trump's team they still believe even after the subpoena, even after the search at mar-a-lago the former president still has these documents in his possession. cnn caught the lawyers going in leaving the courthouse. we asked them what they were there for, they wouldn't talk about it. that's what we've been able to glean today as the justice department tries to move forward and secure the return of all the doc

cnn's sara murray starts us off this hour with a look at rising stakes for the former president alongultiple legal fronts. >> we are obligated to seek answers directly from the man who set this all in motion. >> reporter: that man donald trump now issued a formal subpoena from the house select committee investigating the deadly attack on the u.s. capitol. looking -- >> both for his testimony under oath as well as for documents. >> the committee writing in short you were at the center of the first and the only effort by any u.s. president to overturn an election and obstruct the peaceful transfer of power. the evidence demonstrates that you knew this activity was illegal and unconstitutional and also knew that your assertions of fraud were false. the committee calling for trump to hand over documents by november 4nd and appear for testimony november 14th. they are calling for a broad range of records, including calls made by trump or at his direction on january 1th, calls to members of congress, documents related to the proud boys or oath keepers, communications about blocking the cert

but also how wide ranging this investigation has been, john. >> indeed, sara murray, thank you for allrting. appreciate it. let's discuss with former state federal prosecutor paul callan, as well as cnn jamie gangdel. i want to go back to what sara was talking about, the mar-a-lago search. this idea that trump might invite federal agents back in to search mar-a-lago in a supervised setting. you've been at this a long time, both as a prosecutor and defense attorney, is this something that the fbi and prosecutors would agree to? >> well, john, i know you're a baseball fan and you've heard that phrase "there's no crying in baseball exq" i can tell you criminal law there's no such thing as a supervised search. they being the prosecutors will say this is nothing more than a publicity stunt. obviously, law enforcement authorities are not going to expect to find anything, when you give somebody the opportunity to clean up the premises over a period of many, many weeks. so, i really think that that offer is an empty offer, of no value to the prosecution. >> so, jamie, on the committee, the jan

sara murray, thank you so much. re to walk us through some of the details of the legal part of this sentencing is cnn's legal analyst and former prosecutor paul callan. as sara just described the judge did hand down jail time but not as much as the government wanted and not as much as he could have gotten, up to a year in jail, and then the financial part of this was pretty small as well. what do you make of how the judge came down on those fronts? >> it looks to me, abby, like a compromised sentence. he threw a little bit to both sides. that would have been a staggeringly high fine, the $200,000 fine the department of justice requested and of course they wanted six months in prison. the judge settled on four months. but the judge also leaned in bannon's favor in another area by saying i'm going to give you an opportunity to appeal this case and you will not have to go to jail during that time. he granted a stay. and there are interesting issues that are raised here, one is it's called the defense of counsel advice.

cnn's sara murray joins us now with details. let's start with the fulton county, georgia investigation. who is testifying? >> well, anderson, we have learned that there are two prominent witnesses who have testified before fulton county grand jury. one of them is former georgia senator kelly loeffler. the other is former white house lawyer pat cipollone. both of these are big gets for the district attorney down in georgia, fawnee willis. it gives you an idea how long-ranging her investigation. >> what news to the federal grand jury investigating the documents at mar-a-lago? >> we are learning this evening, that kash patel, a top adviser to former president donald trump has appeared before a federal grand jury who is investigating the mar-a-lago documents, the mishandling of sensitive documents there. and what we don't know is whether kash patel actually answered questions before the grand jury, or whether he invoked his 50 amendment right against self-incrimination. this is an important person. he has been deeply involved in thi

. >> cnn's sara murray joins us. the november 13th deadline for testimony under oath, only a couple of weeks away. there seems to be some optimism from congresswoman cheney. what are you hearing? >> reporter: yeah. i mean, i think that the committee has been very optimistic publicly about their odds of hearing from the former president in part because, you know, they think he should want to appear before them, you know, to at least answer for his actions or perhaps to try to make some attempt to clear his name, but take a listen to what liz cheney had to say about this over the weekend. >> it will be done with a level of rigor and discipline and seriousness that it deserves. we are not going to allow the president -- he's not going to turn this into a circus. this isn't going to be, you know, his first debate against joe biden and the circus and the food fight that that became. this is far too serious set of issues. >> reporter: so she's saying she wants to see the former president testifying under oath and she also

we have the latest from cnn's sara murray. >> we are obligated to seek answers directly from the man who set this all in motion. >> reporter: that man, donald trump, now issued a formal subpoena from the house select committee investigating the deadly attack on the u.s. capitol. >> both for his testimony and as well as documents. >> reporter: the economies writing you were at the center of the first and only evident by any u.s. president to overturn and election and obstruct the peaceful transition of power. you knew it was illegal and that your at certissertions of fraud false. they laid out efforts touting false allegations of voter fraud and firing off this twoeet attacking mike pence during the riot which the committee says incited further violence by publicly condemning your vice president. the committee calling for trump to hand over documents by november 4 and appeal for testimony november 14th. they are calling for a broad range of records including calls made by trump or at his direction on january 6. calls to members of congress. documents related to the proud boys or oathk

cnn political correspondent sara murray is joining us with details. what is the trump team saying about this new subpoena from the select committee delivered to trump today? >> well, it's now up to his legal team to grapple with how they want to respond. in a statement from one of these law firms, they slammed the select committee for making the full subpoena public, but said they will respond as appropriate to this unprecedented action. >> we are obligated to seek answers directly from the man who set this all in motion. >> reporter: that man, donald trump, now issued a formal subpoena from the house select committee investigating the deadly attack on the u.s. capitol. looking -- >> both for his testimony under oath as well as for documents. >> reporter: the committee writing, in short, you are at the center of the first and only effort by any u.s. president to overturn an election and obstruct the peaceful transition of power. the evidence demonstrates that you knew this activity was illegal and unconstitutional, and also knew your assertions of fra

cnn's sara murray has more. >> we are obligated to seek answers directly from the man who set this allald trump, now issued a formal subpoena from the house select committee investigating the deadly attack on the u.s. capitol. looking -- >> both for his testimony under oath as well as for documents. >> reporter: the committee writing, "in short, you were at the center of any u.s. president to overturn an election and obstruct the peaceful transition of power. the evidence demonstrates you knew this activity was illegal and unconstitutional and that your assertion of fraud was false." in laying it out, touting false violations of voter fraud and this tweet attacking mike pence during the riot, which the committee said further extenuated violence. he's to hand over document base november 4th and appear for testimony on november 14th. they're calling for calls made by trump or at his direction on january 6th, calls to members of congress, documents related to the crowd noise or oath keepers or proud boys, communications about blocking the certification of the election, and anything on des

. >> joining us now, cnn political correspondent sara murray. what exactly could hutchinson offer prosecutors in georgia? what are their interest there's? >> look, obviously someone working in the trump white house and worked closely with former white house chief of staff mark meadows. prosecutors weren't able to secure meadows' testimony yet before the grand jury and the kind of person who could fill in a lot of gaps. talk about what she saw in the west wing around the 2020 election. the run-up and aftermath of that call between donald trump and georgia secretary of state wrathensburger, trump asked him to win georgia. meadows on that call. meadows made a surprises visit to a sga ballot audit site in 2020. she would know the details surrounding that, and of course could have details of all members meadows was involved in and what others were doing in the west wing. >> smabmaybe something we haven heard yet in these hearings. >> exactly. >> and both the georgia process and the doj investigation kind of, you know, taken this beat, because they ha

cnn political correspondent sara murray is there. how is all of this expected to play out today? >> reporter: well, you know, look, steve bannon is here in court, we expect this could take a couple of hours. what we know is that steve bannon is trying to get out of any kind of jail time. he was convicted on two counts for refusing to show up for a subpoena to testify before congress and refusing to hand over documents. the government has asked that he spend six months behind bars and they said he should pay a $200,000 fine. now, bannon's team has said, look, at the most he should get probation, he listened to his attorneys' advice and if you are going to put him behind bars it should be house arrest only. they are also saying bannon plans to appeal his conviction and they're saying that any punishment he receives should essentially be put on hold while that appeal plays out. the government has taken issue with that as well saying, no, look, he did nothing to try to accommodate the process, did nothing to try to accommodate the january 6th committee, whatever sentence is hand ds d

. >> and, sara murray, dew point continues to say these things.t in a legal document. donald trump continues to say this, and even john eastman who pushed and pushed and pushed and pushed said in an email this morning, mr. president, those emails are bogus. >> politicians do that. it's dangerous, but they do that. he said this in a court document, and there is this paper trail where john eastman is saying, you know, he actually noes now that these numbers are not accurate, so i don't think he should sign off on this again and trump goes ahead and does it anyway. >> it takes us back to the previous conversation we had about republicans believing there's an integrity election question. we wonder why. >>> up next, mike pence and a complicated question. >> mr. pebnce, if donald trump s the presidenential nominee for 2024, will you vote for him? dupixent helps you du more with less asthma. and can help you breathe better in as little as 2 weeks. dupixent is an add-on treatment for specific types of moderate-to-severe asthma that's not for sudden breath

sara murray reports on what they say they have uncovered and what you must know. >> reporter: the january 6 committee making its closing argument ahead of the november midterms. >> there's new material that i found as we got into it pretty surprising. >> reporter: sources say they are aiming to drive home that former president donald trump still poses a danger to democracy. using a mix of new evidence and reminders of the prior work. >> it's really demonstrated the breadth and depth of the effort to overturn the election and to stop the peaceful transfer of power. it was an effort that at every step of the way the former president was deeply involved in, personally engaged in. >> reporter: while live witnesses are not expected, members are preparing to showcase previously unseen emails from secret service, which recently turned over more than a million communications, as well as new video. since the last hearing in july -- >> the president's stolen election lies provoked that mob to attack the capitol. >> reporter: the committee interviewed trump cabinet members, including steve mnuchin,

cnn's sara murray has more on the rising stakes for the former president along multiple legal fronts. >> we are obligated to seek answers directly from the man who set this all in motion. >> reporter: that man, donald trump, now issued a formal subpoena from the house select committee investigating the deadly attack on the u.s. capitol. >> both for his testimony under oath as well as for documents. >> reporter: the committee writing, in short, you at the center by any u.s. president to overturn an election and obstruct the peaceful transfer of power. the evidence demonstrates you knew this was illegal and unconstitutional and also knew your assertions of fraud were false. the committee calling for trump to hand over documents by november 4th and appear for testimony november 14th. they're calling for a broad range of records, including calls made by trump or at his direction on january 6th. calls to members of congress. documents related to the proud boys or oath keepers. communications about blocking the spheubgz of the election. and anything on destroying materials or contacting wit

sara murray joins us with that story. >> sources have told us that this is a consideration on the table to allow federal investigators to return for some kind of supervised search so you could imagine that trump's lawyers would also be present for something like that. that's because the justice department has insisted to them in private discussions as well as publically in court filings that they believe that the former president still has government documents, even after the subpoena he was given, even after the august search at mar-a-lago. so this would be a potential way to try to satisfy the government's demands. there are of course people around former president trump who don't believe he has any additional documents. but the justice department has been very insistent they believe there are still documents out there and potentially trump and his team could have run afoul from this subpoena that could put him in legal jeopardy. this is an option on the table, not something that has been decided yet. >> is there any indication why the former president might be changing his tune if th

sara murray is live in washington with the very latest for us. sarah, good morning. >> reporter: good morning. well there wasn't a lot of substance in the letter from donald trump. but you do get a sense of his disdain for the committee in that response. that is as you said after the committee took this extraordinary step of subpoenaing the former president for documents as well as testimony. >> the central cause of january 6th was one man. donald trump. >> reporter: the january 6 select committee focusing squarely on former president trump and the last hearing before the midterm elections and closing with an extraordinary move. >> those in favor will say aye. >> reporter: voting to subpoena trump for testimony in their ongoing probe. >> we are obligating to seek answers directly from the man who set this all in motion zwrncht after members revealed new evidence that trump planned months before the 2020 election to try to stay in office no matter the outcome. >> president trump had a premeditated plan to declare that the election was fraud lent a

and zach cohen and sara murray and i are told, wolf, that they've had the cooperation, at least testimonyortant witnesses, the former senator kelly loeffler, as well as pat cipollone, who is the former white house counsel. you'll know of course that loeffler was a very prominent supporter of the former president. the "atlanta journal-constitution" just in the last couple of days published some text messages that appeared to show her talking to people like marjorie taylor greene, the congresswoman, and others in the trump circle to try to coordinate efforts to try to challenge the election results. pat cipollone, of course, is an important witness. he's already testified to the january 6th committee, to the justice department's grand jury criminal investigation, and in the case of the fulton county grand jury of course they would want to know what he knows about what the former president was doing to try to overturn the election results there in georgia, claiming that there was fraud when of course the justice department had already found that there wasn't that kind of fraud. wolf? >> very

cnn's sara murray has details. what do we know about this? >> it's a pretty wind scope. it's calling for the former president to hand over documents by november 4th and to testify november 14th. when you look for the kind of documents they're asking for they're asking not just for records of any calls trump made january 6th, but if he said get someone on the phone for me, they want records of that. they want records of any communications involving pence for a period of time. they want records of them talking about the committee or witnesses of the committee. they want any records of destruction of other materials, so it gives you an idea of just how broad the set of documents they're looking for from the former president in addition of course to that testimony. now, we have not heard directly from trump on this, but we did hear from an opportunity representing him saying the committee was flouting norms by making this subpoena public but saying we'll review and analyze it and respond as appropriate to this unprecedented action. so it remains unclear what exactly that's g

. >> let me bring in sara murray who is also with us now on this reporting. do we know about the scope of what they're asking the president for? >> liz this is a subpoena for documents as well as testimony but when you are looking at the variety of communications and documents they're asking for its pretty wide-ranging. they are not just asking for records of phone calls the former president made, they're asking for records of calls that people may have made at his direction. we know that donald trump has a habit of telling his aides get so-and-so on the phone. so this reflects that and they're talking about, you know, any calls made by trump or at his direction on january 6th. you know, they have a window of time where they want to know about any communications the former president with members of congress, they want to know about any communications he had with state lawmakers or other state officials trying to encourage them or pressure them to delay the certification of the election. we've obviously heard a lot of testimony about that from the january 6th c

. >> sara murray, thank you so much for this brand-new reporting. i want to bring in elliott williams, cnn legal analyst and former federal prosecutor. what does it take to pierce a privilege like this whether it be executive or attorney/client privilege? what would it take for a federal judge to rule they have to testify? >> you are right with that question, john. any former president is going to be entitled to some measure of protection for conversations that happen in the white house with attorneys either via the attorney/client privilege or executive privilege. now, look, as this has come up over the years going back to richard nixon, it's very hard for a white house to overcome the criminal process. and if criminal investigators are looking into something and believe there might be evidence of a crime somewhere, they can pierce those privileges and that may happen here. >> evidence of a possible crime. what then do you think it is that the justice department, that investigators want to get at? what door could be opened with the testimony of phi

cnn's sara murray has been following the case in fulton county for us in georgia.ah is here in "the situation room." we keep seeing this georgia investigation expand. >> that is right. and cassidy hutchinson could be an important cooperator for them in part because she worked closely with mark meadows, the former white house chief of staff and they haven't been able to secure his testimony yet. but let's go back to just what made her testimony so jaw-dropping. she sort of signals that there were people in the white house already worried that crimes could be happening. take a listen. >> mr. cipollony said something to the effect of, please make sure we don't go up to the capitol, cassidy, keep in touch with me. we're going to get charged with every crime imaginable if we make that movement happen. >> so you heard her in the white house that peopler crossing red lines and georgia prosecutors are looking for information relating to efforts to over turn the election in georgia. we didn't hear a lot from her on this in the hearing but she would have some knowledge of me

cnn correspondent sara murray is outside of the u.s. district court in washington, d.c. the judge this morning said bannon has expressed no remorse for his actions. walk us through how all of this is expected to play out today. >> reporter: well, sure, bianna. they're getting through the housekeeping items they have to get through before the judge hands down a sentence. what bannon's team was hoping for that he would get probation, maybe that he if gets some kind of sort of prison sentence that he would be able to serve it from home and ultimately they're hoping that any punishment is delayed while bannon tries to appeal his conviction. and the judge has already shot down at least a piece of that. the judge made it clear this morning that there is a one-month minimum behind bars. so not showing up to testify when he got a subpoena from the january 6 committee and not handing over any documents. so the judge making clear bannon is looking at least a minimum of one month behind bars. and the judge points out that bannon hasn't shown any remorse for his crimes, for not show

cnn justice correspondent evan perez and political correspondent sara murray joining us now.n, what is the committee saying here? >> the subpoena is demanding the former president produce documents by november 4th. this is everything related to his effort to overturn the 2020 election results. they're asking also for him to appear for a deposition on november 14th app nd to provide testimony to the committee. that could go beyond that single day according to the committee. in addition, they sent a letter to the former president explaining what they have found as part of their investigation and why they have taken this extraordinary step. i'll read you just part of that letter signed by bennie thompson and the committee, the chairman of the committee, he says in part, as demonstrated in our hearings we have assembled overwhelming evidence including from dozens of your former appointees and staff that you personally orchestrated and oversaw a multi-part effort to overturn the 2020 election and to obstruct the peaceful transition of power. they point out, victor and erica, that

. >> sara murray, i appreciate the update. >>> former d.c.icer michael fanone secretly recorded a meeting with kevin mccarthy six months after the january 6th insurrection. he attended it with u.s. capitol police officer harry dunn who defended the capitol that day and mother of late capitol police officer brian sicknick. they press mccarthy on claims the former president didn't know there was any violence inside the capitol on that day but as you likely remember, testimony to the january 6th committee revealed he did know because he was watching hours of coverage on the violence from the white house. here's what officer fanone recorded from his meeting with mccarthy. >> wasn't watching tv. >> he knew what was going on. he knew what was going on. he knows they were fighting for hours and hours and hours. you know, just doesn't make any sense to me. >> i don't know that he did know that. >> that audio and other moments from that meeting are detailed in michael fanone's new book titled "hold the line: the insurrection and one cop's battle for a

so my colleague sara murray has in fact confirmed that the d.a.ured cassidy hutchinson's cooperation. and since they've so far been unsuccessfully in getting meadows himself to testify, they're actually still trying to secure his testimony, hutchinson really might be able to give some insight since meadows, there were two things of note. he was on that notorious phone call between trump and georgia secretary of state in early january 2021 where trump of course asked raffensperger to find more votes. and then meadows also made a surprise visit to a cobb county, georgia, location in december 2020, just a month after the election, where officials were conducting an absentee ballot signature audit. so really the d.a. probably wants to know more about information about what meadow what's doing there. and cassidy hutchinson really could provide some answers here, since we know he was constantly by his side. georgia investigators, they will talk to hutchinson at some point even though they are shifting into this quiet period before the midterms to not di

cnn political correspondent sara murray has new details on what to expect. >> reporter: the january 6th committee making its closing argument ahead of the november midterms. >> there's some new material that, you know, i found as we got into it pretty surprising. >> reporter: sources say they're aiming to drive home that former president donald trump still poses a danger to democracy, using a mix of new evidence and reminders of their prior work. >> it's really demonstrated the breadth and the depth of the effort to overturn the election. and to stop the peaceful transfer of power. and it was an effort that, at every step of the way, the former president was deeply involved in, personally engaged in. >> reporter: while live witnesses are not expected, members are preparing to showcase previously unseen emails from secret service which recently turned over more than 1 million communications, as well as new video. since the last hearing in july -- >> the president's stolen election lies provoked that mob to attack the capitol. >> reporter: the committee interviewed trump cabinet members,

cnn's sara murray is live outside of the federal courthouse are bannon is listening to his sentencing right now. what are hearing is happening inside of the courtroom right now? >> reporter: that is right, kate. the judge just ran through the factors that are at play here and just hasn'ted down the sentencing. steve bannon is sentencing to four months in prison. now it is four months for each count but will run concurrently so that is four months as well as a 650$65,000 fine and for refusing to hand over any documents to the january 6 committee. now this is the lesser sentence than what the government was hoping for. they said bannon should spend six months behind bars and pay a $200,000 fine but it is more than what steve bannon was hoping for. did he not want to do any jail time and hoping for probation only. the judge made it clear today that he was not going to go for that. that there was some minimum jail time and he made clear today that steve bannon has shown no remorse for his actions. he also pointed out that he never tried to comply with the subpoena at all. never handed ove

joining us now is cnn political correspondent sara murray along where former u.s. preet. >> we're getting a few more details about the documents that were seized during that search in mar-a-lago, and look, these are details, pam, that we are not supposed to be getting. this is coming from a court filing that appeared to be inadvertently posted on the public docket. bloomberg news found it, and it gives more details on what was seized in mar-a-lago, and it includes things like clemency requests, healthcare documents, irs forms, paperwork that appeared to relate to the 2020 election. you know, paperwork that had to do with communications between a republican lawyer and the white house about a lawsuit in georgia. it also looks like this list notes that there were some items relating to the former president's business, so a settlement between the pga and trump golf. the former president's resignation from the screen actors guild. and this is a list that came from the privilege review team, so we know that is the part of the justice department that was sort of weeding t

let's bring in political corner sara murray, paul cowen. paul, i will kick it off with you.more can you tell us about what trump is arguing in this emergency request on the heels of what we just heard from katelyn? >> pamela, it sounds like the former president really wants to get a look at those classified documents because this is an odd duck of an appeal. you would think he is appealing the whole mar-a-lago warrant and that the whole seizure was illegal. no, none of that is being appealed. the only thing that's being appealed here is whether the special master can look at the classified documents and presumably share them with trump's attorneys. everything else has been left alone. so the question now becomes why is the president and his lawyers, why are they so interested in looking at those classified documents, especially if the president himself declassified them and had them put in boxes. he would know already what is there. so it is an odd duck of an appeal. >> so, joan, on that note this is a big test, right? i mean this could be a big test for the supreme court. i

with us to discuss this reporting our cnn special correspondent jamie gangle, sara murray.they have new evidence. >> right. >> no live testimony. is that confirmed? no live testimony but instead the witnesses they've gathered since july, what do we expect? >> with this committee anything can happen. >> excellent point? right now no live witnesses, but there are new witnesses we've never seen before who have been interviewed by the committee and there is new testimony from old witnesses that we have seen before, there is a lot of new evidence and i am told big picture, all roads lead to donald trump. as you said, the point that they are going to make is that he remains a clear and present danger. not just because of what happened on january 6th, but because he continues to say the election was stolen. he continues to support election deniers. they see this as a threat 2024, democracy in peril. just a couple of names we may get testimony from tomorrow, former trump cabinet members who have testified since the last hearing. former secretary of state mike po pompeo. elaine chao

cnn's sara murray broke the story. she joins us now. what more have you learned about the timeline of this investigation? >> well, anderson, sources are telling us that the fulton county district attorney willis wants to move quickly after the midterms to wrap up her work. she has had the special grand jury there seated for five months collecting evidence, and she could move as soon as december to begin issuing indictments. now there is going to be this quiet period before the election. so there could be a period where we don't see or hear much out of her investigation. and there are still a few loose ends she has to tie up. she is still trying to get testimony from former white house chief of staff mark meadows, for instance. but it is clear she is sort of looking at wrapping up this investigation and moving ahead quickly with potential indictments. >> it is clear who might actually be facing indictments? >> it's not clear. we know that prosecutors working on this case have warned rudy giuliani, the president's former attorney, as well

>> all right, sara murray, thank you so much. ing fight this, jamie raskin, democrat of maryland. how much of this is setting a marker we're inviting him to tell his story, we're inviting him to give his side, and how much of this is no, we really think that we can get him to testify? >> oh, more than a thousand americans have come forward to testify. >> i know. >> including lots of people in his administration, cabinet officials. there have been -- >> of course he should. of course he should. i'm not disputing that. he is not going to. >> put hit the way. if you interviewed 100 people on the street and said they're accusing you of trying to overthrow your own government, overthrow presidential election, and they deny it, well, would you come forward and testify? i think that they would. but even if he thinks that it was a righteous manifestation of pro-trump sentiment, then he should come forward. if he really wants to be the mussolini of a mass right wing populous movement to attack the constitutional order, he should come forwa