and in a few minutes we'll be joined by governor sara palin.ne of kentucky favorites, senator mitch mcconnell. did al gore prepare biden for this debate? >> you and i were talking about gore got into bush's face back in 2000. joe obviously was clearly you know interested in firing up debates and being animated and all the rest. >> sean: i think it's deeper than that. almost uncontroblable laughter. almost unhinged rude, and condescending. mean at times, interruptive. like he was trying to overcompensate for the horrific debate president obama had. i'm not sure how this play was the american people. to be that rude and to be vice president at times so uncontrolable i was beginning to worry about him. >> we just saw frank luntz's focus group. it didn't move any of them. >> sean: good point. there are other things people didn't pick up on. there are issues in this debate. we know intelligence community in bengazy knew within 24 hours this was a terrorist attack. we know that there were multiple requests for security that wasn't granted. when i loo

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el más reciente en el 2008 contra sara palin.difíciles, y esperamos que sea divertido. algunos esperan que cometa sus reci recibalones. ryan tiene la edad del hijo mayor de biden. ryan tiene que mantener el impulso que romney logró en el primer debate. >>> me va a disparar como una bala de cañón, dijo. >>> el presidente del partido republicano, dijo que biden se sabe relacionar con la gente pero también paul creo que es henin, creo que es humilde y puede explicar bien las cosas complicadas. paul no dejara que biden defina lo que nosotros representamos, esto es muy importante. >>> a los candidatos de la vicepresidente les llaman perros de ataque. defienden sus argumentos sin remilg remilgos. los van a ver estas universitarias que son vo cantos. ella quiere que hablen de inmigración. >>> >>> aquí tenemos programas que ayudamos a niños, que no son documenta documentados algunos. mero queremos como su educación será en el futuro. >>> y esta estudiante espera que hable del plan de salud del presidente obama. >>> creo que este debate p

. >> i heard that death pan argument from sara palin.ear this stuff about panel. >> greta: two different men who want the same job. joe biden and paul ryan auditioning for the undecided vote. how did each do? joining us is byron york and sam youngman happens to be from kentucky and works for routers and amy stod yard from the hill. byron, thoughts about the debate tonight? >> well, i think there is a two ways to judge this debate tonight. there is a debate on the substance you that might get if you read the transcript and who did the best on one subject i thought close to a tie. i thought paul ryan won on libya and taxes and i thought joe biden won on medicare and afghanistan. i think that is overshadowed by joe biden's demeanor. and democrats later said no. no. he was passionate and a happy warrior. and republicans said no. he was terribly rude. i think people goring to watch, view this debate through their own impregs of the vice president's demeanor. >> greta: amy, in looking at vice president biden, i wonder do you have a thought wha

the former alaska governor sara palin with us. governor, thanks for joining us. >> thank you. >> and let's start with the general observations of the debate. >> it was so encouraging. this is a great night for anyone who has been longing to low the -- know truly who could turn things around? we don't have to go bankrupt. we can restore all is good in our private sector and families in the middle class. mitt romney able to articulate what many of us have been desiring. a big government agenda, and policies of barack obama. do we have to repeat those? can ge we go into another direction? rely on those principle that's built up this country into the greatest nation on earth. can we go back to that direction now? mitt romney gave us a reason why now, we know we have a clear choice. the contrast made tonight. >> sean: i found the president stammering and on defense, mitt romney on offense. one moment interesting to me is when president obama couldn't explain his own debt. very a plan to reduce the deficit by $4 tril bin but given a $6

. >>> escuchÉ los argumentos de sara palin pero hablaremos de medicare, lo que hicimos nosotros, fuetos de receta mÉdica. tiene que pagar menos con pagos. eliminan esto, y el medicare entonces, en el 2016 se in solvento en primer lugar. y en segundo lugar. garantizado, esto es un vale, cuando propusieron, con el primer programa. dijeron que costarÍa 6. 400 dÓlares al aÑo. mÁs para cada anciano, 65 o menos si llegaban a esa edad. todos los congresistas y republicanos votaran a favor del gobernador. romney sabiendo de esto dijo. lo firmarÍa hoy mismo ¿a quien le cree? a la ma. a mÍ, a la asociaciÓn mÉdica estadounidense, un individuo que ha luchado por esto. una persona que pus un plan en movimiento, que a sabiendas agregÓ 6. 400 dÓlares mÁs al costo de medicare por persona. ahora tengo un plan nuevo, confÍa en lo que te digno tecos tara mÁs. mis amigos sigan sus intentos. y con respecto a la seguridad social. nosotros no, vamos a traumatizarnos. si hubiÉramos escuchado a romney el congresista en los aÑos de bush. imaginense donde los de la tercera generaciÓn estarÍan e aquÍ el problem

effectively within that limit, and he did so also four years ago in his vice presidential debate against sara palinthere's always the possibility of a gaffe with joe biden, but i think the republicans would be foolish to rely on one happening. jon: at the same time, pat -- i'm sorry, congressman ryan kind of an unknown quantity. it would seem like he has the bigger upside since most folks already have formed an opinion of joe biden. >> well, yes. and people don't know paul ryan nearly in depth as they know joe biden. i mean, paul ryan has struck me as a person who's very well versed in policy, and part of the, you know, talk in the press about him is he's a policy wonk. he'll get lost in facts and figures. but he's also got the ability to argue for his policies in terms that are readily accessible to and attractive to the average voter. that's why he's been able to win with more than 60% in a district that voted for al gore and barack obama. jon: michael barone. michael, it's good to have you on. >> good to be with you. jon: thank you. and we are your election headquarters. fox news channel is the

> this is biden's second vice presidential debate n 2008 he squared off with republican nominee sara palin us for the vice presidential debate thursday night. cnn's live coverage begins at 7 eastern. hugo chavez has been elected to another six year term with one of the highest voter participation rates in decades. >> more than 8 million compatriots voted for the revolution and socialism and they voted for independence. they voted for the greatness of venezuela. >> venezuela is the fourth largest exporter of oil to the united states, and chavez has been venezuela's president since 1999. >>> onto pakistan where a group of americans are braving dangerous conditions to protest u.s. policy. more than 30 members of code pink marched against american drone strikes in pakistan because according to code pink the drones are killing too many civilians. last hour i talked with madea benjamin, a co-founder of the group in islam bad and she says code pink is fostering a better relationship between pakistani civilians and u.s. citizens. >> we have been to an area where they have not seen americans for te

joe biden has done over 18 debates, which he eventually lost to sara sarah palin. lot of experience. i think the conventional wisdom on him he has to watch it. he can't do any gaffes. they give joe biden a pass sometimes when he goes off the rails because he has a good ability to speak directly to the american people. he's not too high brow, he's not too wonky. bill: the able difference will be a an astounding thing this watch. 38 years separate the stew candidates. this format is different. they are sitting down. >> team obama want h wanted them to be standing. they wanted all the debates to have the candidates at top of the ticket or second in command to be sitting. i think they think it lead to better dialogue and they got wear that i tonight. weee see that as the two men spar. as for the age difference it is remarkable. they throw out stats in advance of this thing. vice president joe biden, then joe biden had graduated from college, finished law school, got even married at the moment paul ryan was being born. this is a remarkable difference between what the tw

but it was sara silverman that got people in florida to vote. no, it was sarah palinwas enough to get the old jewish voters to vote republican. your thoughts on how this is working? >> what's fun about using humor and where it becomes a fact is i've been doing political satire for almost 30 years now. this is such an elevated time of people who are totally insane. so i think with comics you can hit with some raw language that sometimes is the inner voice that people want to use and they now like to use, you know when you're nailing like a nail into the wall and you whack your thumb really hard, it's a moment where you don't say shoot. it's a moment where you might use the swear because it feels really intense. >> yeah. >> so i think the comics -- they can resonate in a way that other folks can't or regular ads can't. so when you say, this is insane at this point, people, we're allowed to do that in a way that broadcasters aren't and news men aren't and it's been real effective. >> the great lenny bruce is saying, great work, guys, keep it up. anyway, thank you, nick m