and finally, sarah alba says it was nice to see you on tv been, let's have more non virgin kernel lord and wilkerson prepared the un presentation by which colon power justified the invasion of iraq to the international community . he describes it as the worst moment of his professional life. i say, moved from washington insider to tension critic of the new york on policies of successive us administration. he joins alex, the close of the american intervention in afghanistan. come a lot of the spoke us and thank you so much for joining me on the alex island show . glad to be with you. really this week cover wilkerson, the last american troops, nato troops of left afghanistan. but 20 years ago, you are right at the the center of decision making. what was that amy thought back in 2001. this was a, a conflict of how to engagement might go on for 20 years. i'm really glad you added nato. there. the united states has done its level best to pull nato into out of area operations and therefore justified continued existence, a subject on which i can relax. but to your question, i was there in the