and to the second hearing and that was accompanied by the acting environmental review officer sarah b jones and because i was concerned on time because i needed the files by the last administrative hearing they told mr. rahaim or thomas de santo mentioned earlier they were to come to the tac -- what is it? >> [inaudible] >> compliance and amendments committee and everyone agreed it would be the next wednesday, the procedural notice and they told him so mr. ionin didn't show up at that hearing and he was taking over lulu wong's position and acting agent for mr. john rahaim. he knew about it all along so the order went to john rahaim. he was in receipt of it so to say he wasn't given notice or ability to be heard wasn't the case at all. he cheese people to hand. >> >> handle it and they didn't handle it at all. this is john rahaim. this is from the bay guardian of last year. planning in san francisco is a blood sport. he's talking about war here. the war was to push the project forward and deny me -- >> my question is what documents double haven't been produced to you at this time? >> well, t