our sarah eisen sat down with her today and joins us next with what the visit means for u.s.-china relations. "the exchange" returns right after this. >> this is "the exchange" on cnbc. business. it's not a nine-to-five proposition. it's all day and into the night. it's all the things that keep this world turning. the go-tos that keep us going. the places we cheer. and check in. they all choose the advanced network solutions and round the clock partnership from comcast business. see why comcast business powers more small businesses than anyone else. get started for $49.99 a month plus ask how to get up to an $800 prepaid card. don't wait- call today. >>> welcome back to "the exchange," treasury secretary janet yellen is wrapping up her second trip to china in her position meeting officials and she sat down with our sarah eisen for an exclusive interview. sarah is in beijing. it's late night there and i know you've been on air all day. >> we've been on air all day. it's 1:20 in the morning, but this is a big story, and janet yellen, treasury secretary just wrapped up a very bu

. >> as janet yellen, the treasury second told sarah eisen in china. >> they are firing on all cylinders, and inflation is coming down, and the job market is very strong. growth is really been a lot stronger than i would have expected at this stage. we had 3.1% growth last year, and inflation is coming down. labor supply is up. >> is the secretary wrong? >> no, she's right, but that's happening in spite of higher interest rates. she's not suggesting because of, but here's where i am going with this. >> you said rates can rise for the right reason? >> well, auto sales are not going to thrive if we get interest rates going higher from there. they are doing well inspite of higher interest rates. credit card receivables are hanging in there, and delinquencies have picked up folks, back to where they were on the curve before the pandemic. it's not easy to be a young person making money and keeping up with the costs of living these days, so you can't go much higher here. >> at the same time you have kris harvey at wells fargo, and yeah, there could be more volatility, but at the end of the day

treasury secretary janet yellen wrapping up a trip to china earlier this morning, she spoke to sarah eiseng long about the potential geopolitical risks to the market. certainly the relationship between china and the united states is incredibly important in all of this, too. >> reporter: yeah, good evening from beijing, becky, one of the most important bilateral economic relationship between the u.s. and china and secretary yellen's visit here was a bit of a diplomatic balancing act between opening the lines of communication even more and restoring the relationship which she said she did at the same time delivering a tough message on the economy, about things that the u.s. disagree with, and the primary one was this issue of overcapacity, or dumping subsidies by the chinese government to chinese industry ev, solar panel, lithium ion panel they flood the world with cheap exports and threaten u.s. companies. i asked her how that message was received. >> i do think they understand where we're coming from and they have agreed to continue in an intensive dialogue on this issue, i think they unde

sarah. all joining me now to discuss trump's failed delay tactics, is cnn legal analysts, norm eisen.ook. it's appellee time norm. it's called trying trump, a guide to his first election interference, criminal trial. thank you so much. much for joining us, norm. let's just start here trump's been rejected three times and three days. >> what do you think >> he thinking about all of this isn't unusual because it's pretty useful when someone tries again, a case dismissed that the judge doesn't dismiss it, correct? >> that is a normal circumstance, sara, i think what trump is thinking is that he faces a grave risk of possible conviction and a possible sentence of incarceration if he is convicted, of course, he's innocent until proven guilty the way that judge merchan the judge has started talking about the case is part of that parallel that is leading donald trump to this frenzy of failed delight tactics. judge immersion in his decisions on the case, but also in what he is going to read the incoming possible jurors starting on monday. he says, this is a case of alleged criminal election i