and sarah flores republican strategist and ruth marcus, columnist for the "washington post" but, first, hid, the trip to mexico. is it fair to say in this meeting with president nieto that donald trump got rare media praise? >> yes. and the reason why is because it was the honest outcome of what many of us were expecting. like chuck said he was trying into the den of the man would like bed his rhetoric to hitler but walked out of there with a very presidential looking accomplishment in his pocket. it was very respectful. >> this spot it was a stunt but others were more positive. >> most were positive, i called it a win. for him. it was just like the specific face thing. it was not the outcome we expected. but this is a good example of how the media is becoming the whipping boy for whatever news cycle does not benefit your candidate because i went on before the speech and a lot of the people on the internet came back to toll the journalist whose pronounced it a "win," without respecting you have to react in the 24 hour news cycle and it was very much --. >> it hasn't happened with a spe

sarah, it flores, it is great have you with me. >> have you spoken to fiorina. also, directly speak to him about comments he made about her image? >> yeah, i mean carly and i have spoken since the debate and you know what was interesting about how hillary clinton handled that issue was, it seems like she prepared that specifically for the end of the debate knowing there is a great chance that donald trump would not be able to avoid, taking the bait the next day and creating that sort of additional news cycle of donald trump and his popularity among women. donald trump did take that bait and it is been clearly been in the news for multiple days and not surprising. >> sarah -- a smart move. >> sarah, can you share it? >> when you talk to any candidates and carly about this debate, you use it as a way to reflect on your past experience, it is an inside baseball thing. we do and we talk about how the primary went and those debates and obviously, the cnn debate where carly won that debate out right and she shows what a great debater she was. i don't think carly ever

joining us now to analyze the campaign coverage, heidi przybyla, correspondent at usa today, and sarah isgur flores, ruth marcus from the "washington post." is it fair to say that trump and how he handled himself, that trump got some rare media praise? >> yes, and i think the reason why was because it was the opposite outcome than many of us were expecting. like chuck todd said in opening, here he was flying into the den of the man who had likened his rhetoric to hitler or mussolini. instead he walked out of there with an accomplishment in his pocket. >> trump was being positive. >> it was mostly positive. i called it a win for him and it was just like the expectations thing. that was not the outcome we were expecting. i also want to say, howie, this is a good example of how we're becoming the whipping boy for whatever side doesn't meet your side, skpm and many of the jour li ists came back without recognizing the need for a 24-hour break in the news scandal. >> i was one of trump's fiercest critics and as you saw, they praised him and i about fell out of my chair. he did get a lot of praise. >> i