he has said that there was somebody with him the whole time, sarah harrison was with them and she wastually there precisely for that reason, to be able to say that we were not approached by a government. it does not fit in anything of the person that i know. there is no evidence of it. he sought and received political asylum. >> on the next "charlie rose," join us. >> we are in a period where relationships are complex. they are not allies or adversaries but in between, changing on the issue or the day of the week. this power is diffusing around the world, diffusing into many, many hands in many forms. decision-making is decentralized. we have moved a long way. this year, next month, is the 25th anniversary of the end of the cold war. in 25 years, we have moved from a world tightly controlled to a world that is simply not tightly controlled in which many people are making consequential decisions. >> things are moving enough in the right direction so that they can connect with the rest of humanity to create a better picture of who we are, where we came from, then we ever had before. i w

sarah harrison was with him and she was there precisely for that reason to be able to say, no, we wereot approached by government. so this is -- it does not fit in anything that -- of the person that i know and there's no evidence of it. there's zero. i mean, he sought and received political asylum. >> charlie: thank you for coming. >> thank you. >> charlie: great to meet you. great to meet you. >> charlie: for more about this program and earlier episodes, visit us online at pbs.org and charlierose.com. captioning sponsored by rose communications captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org charlie rose, a conversation with richard haas and neil wilson. join us. >> pe're at a period where relationships are complex. neither allies or adversaries, they're often changing depending on the issue or the day of the week. this also is power spreading around the world, diffusing it to many, many hands in many forms. decision making is increasingly decentralized. we've moved along this year, next month is the 25t 25th anniversary of the end of the cold war and in 25 years we've moved