they run fingerprints and, lo and behold, it's sarah jane olson. the interview that everybody was chasing, and bet had been sold at the time to viacom. viacom also owned cbs then and now. so this interview was the kind of story that wasn't really going to resonate with my black audience on bet, so i was looking for another outlet since i had the interview, the exclusive, another outlet to broadcast the interview. so since viacom had bought bet and they also owned cbs i first go to cbs and say i've got this interview, and i'm happy to sell it to cbs but let me do it on "48 hours," whatever, "60 minutes," give me a place to do the interview, but i'll do it on cbs because i've got the exclusive. oh, you don't have it, dan rather's going to get that. i said, you don't understand, it's on tape. cbs says show me some of the tape. i showed them some of the tape. three times cbs passed on the interview because rather and others -- i love dan rather it's not about rather, but the network was trying to get the interview for their big guy, dan rather. they di