at different points and one of them is a lady named since we are talking about the civil war, sarah joseph hale which is kind of a feminist theme in the book, if i might. is anyone with the audience familiar with sarah joseph hale? raise your hands. only a few. melanie, for the audience, can you talk a little bit about her and how she fits into thanksgiving and what her role was in our holiday? >> widely known as the godmother of thanksgiving. and she was an editor of the 19th century. she was born in late 118th century in new hampshire and her genius as editor was that she believed -- she thought americans we wanted to read about american things. believe it or not this was unusual in the early part of the 19th century. back then magazine editors would wait till the magazines of london to arrive and would take articles from the british magazines and publish them in american magazines but sarah joseph hale did something very different, she started hiring american writers to write for her including the daniel hawthorne and edgar alan poe who went onto describe her, i love this phrase, imaculine e