here to exam thain question is sarah kate ellis. te, what do you make of the religious argument that was part of that 1995 supreme court decision which essentially says that these are private organizations and they can exclude gay and lesbian marchers on the basis of the same thing as saying the naacp doesn't have to admit white supremacists, with a do you think of that argument? >> i think -- hi. happy st. patrick's day. >> same to you. >> i wanted to start with saying that i believe that this is more of a human rights issue than it is a religious issue or political issue. it is about letting families and youth march in the st. patrick's day parade. and be openly out and gay. you know, it is just -- in my opinion, it is don't ask, don't tell down 5th avenue. it is a dangerous message to send to the lgbt community, especially our youth. >> i understand what you are saying. what do you make of the fact that this does actually have the -- of a supreme courtition? this is, as you said -- this is legally sanctioned by the court. how does