a conversation with author sarah lewis. her book explores what propels athletes, explores, and artists to excel against great odds. she is on the faculty of the yield school of art and serves on president obama's arts policy committee. and we will have a conversation with musician amos lee. it is about breaking down carriers in his career. his latest cd is titled mountains of sorrow, rivers of song. those conversations are coming up right now. ♪ >> and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. ♪ >> what is it that unites all great endeavors and how does failure propel people to success? these are to the questions answered by author, sarah lewis. her book is titled "the rise: creativity, the gift of failure, and the search for mastery." sarah lewis serves on president obama's arts policy committee. good to have you on this program. >> thank you. >> why the fascination with the subject? we are all fascinated with the notion of success and failure. as a scholar, why the fascination? >> creativity i

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the author sarah lewis joins us next. traced to their failures.me now is the author sarah lewis with her book "the rise." but the greatest human endeavor we start to understand of failure so many nobel prize-winning discoveries and achievement has come from the unlikely foundation. >> give me an example. >> a historic example signal lawrence invented the telegraph after spending 26 years as a painter then turn to the bars into the telegraph and self. what he gained helped him to persevere to find a patent and when that is one of the main traits that comes out is grit. >> you have quite the background you have a fascinating background with lots of experience what inspired you to write this book? >> when i failed i fail that failing. i realized if i could not master this it could unravel any other success that i had. it is what we are not taught you have to learn your own. but irreplaceable guests come from what you learn in that experience. sandra: i was reading your book earlier the power of surrender the critical role playing in its tv innovation

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wire shakespeare's work still so popular today sarah lewis a shakespeare scholar king's college london gets a spare explanation today was also different kinds of conflicts from generational complete waste of time breaks. each time he completes the circle complete say didn't defend its people from different cultural and just a cool name and site to find something of relevance in six days left. shakespeare is considered the world's most important english language writer. and when to fifty years after spurs striker honey. he pinpointed to fifty four sonnets at least thirty seven weeks speech. most of them were refueling. so thank you to tennis is held to shakespeare's globe. a reconstruction of the which include heated debate is pleased. it's an open air stage as was the seventeenth century region. it also keeps coming back to life on the big screen. one question continues to pre occupy film makers and academics the chicks to prevent the police attributed to him most researchers ppd. also interesting to think about how that reflects the desire to mend. in the south and can tell us somethi

welcome its author, noted curator and scholar sarah lewis, who served on president obama's arts policy of course, is an old friend of mine. sarah, how is failure a gift? >> well, first of all, thaur for having me on. i wrote this book because so many of our iconic achievements and creative endeavors have come from these improper failures. we don't often celebrate them. whether after 26 years as a failed painter and stretches the bars to the telegraph itself. there are so many examples like that as i thought as a curator and scholar that we had these stories out there more. >> do you think we're headed in the wrong direction in a sense because our focus as a society and the west, particularly in the affluent parts of the west and in terms of parenting, is taking kids at a younger and younger age and making them more and more focused on steps of achievement and, i mean, when i was in middle school, i were them saying this will be on your permanent record. you need to do this right because -- it was -- much, much later did i find out there was no permanent record, which is a good thing. >

. >> reporter: sarah nottingham was a sunday school teacher and was married by pastor lewis but it fell a half years. then in 2011, pastor mark's own marriage ended when without warning, he lost his wife joanna. found dead, hanging in their closet. by her own hand, says the coroner. and leaving the young preacher all alone for about a day. within 24 hours, sarah nottingham, no longer a church member, or married, says her phone rings. on the line, pastor mark. >> he was crying and he asked me if i had heard what happened and i told him, yes. >> so his wife had just died. >> yes. >> reporter: he calls an attractive former church member. >> yeah. >> reporter: he started eventually a relationship with you? >> yes. >> reporter: the two become lovers. secret lovers. >> so, you having this relationship. he's single. you're single? >> yes. >> reporter: but it was all secret? >> yes. >> reporter: why? >> he worried about his you know, we kind of have to keep this hush-hush, if they find out i'm dating the ex of one of my, you know, parishioners here, i'm gonna lose the church. >> reporter: but w