i want to go now to sarah matthews. sarah, nice to see you again.e part of trump's 2020 campaign. did trump's alleged affairs resurface at all during that campaign? was there any guidance on how to address them if they did come up? >> no, that wasn't anything that came up during my time on the 2020 campaign or during my time when i switched over to the white house later that year. i have no insight into that whatsoever. >> what do you make of the idea hope hicks and sarah sanders, while in the white house, might have been part of a strategy, that phone call alleged by david pecker to decide how to handle karen mcdougal? just two white house staffers being involved is the question? >> when i was working in the white house press shop this would be something that i would categorize as unethical behavior. to think that two employees of the white house whose salaries are being paid by taxpayer dollars are in cahoots with a media outlet to try to cover up an affair and involved in a hush money payment scheme, and that they had knowledge of this is definit

sarah matthews is a former press secretary for donald trump. a staff writer for the atlantic was written about trump's enablers in the republican party. they both join me now. thank you for taking the time. sarah, want to start with you. you have spoken out and consistently spoken out. what goes through your head when you see people who clearly know better defending trump as they did. >> it's frustrating because as you noted, some of the things they said publicly about donald trump are horrible and then they go on and endorse him. i only imagine the things they say privately. i talked with a lot of republicans high up elected officials and things like that who will bash him quietly but many of them will not say it publicly. >> and once bashed him publicly. >> they are still going forward and supporting him. a lot of times what they often say they are supporting him because of the policies. they want the conservative agenda. where i get frustrated is they are treating this like it's a normal election. normal republican candidate a normal democra

women that worked in the trump administration, like cassidy hutchinson, sarah matthews, like you sawvernment. people like liz cheney. liz cheney has made it her life's work to see donald trump held accountable politically and legally. the women speaking clearly without flinching, often at great personal risk to their safety, to their careers. liz cheney isn't in congress anymore. in order to warn people and put their fellow citizens on notice about what they witnessed the first time trump was president and warn us about what could be in store next time. >> what would it mean in your mind if donald trump became president again? what would a the trump term look like? >> fundamentally, a second trump term could mean the end of american democracy as we know it. and i don't say that lightly. >> the fact that he feels that he needs to lean into being a dictator alone shows that he's a weak, feeble man that has no sense of character and integrity and no sense of leadership. >> he knows how to use government better this time. he can put in die-hard loyalists who can weaponize every level of

sarah matthews is the former white house deputy press secretary for donald trump, mckay comments is a staff writer for "the atlanta," who has written extensively about trumps enablers in the republican party. thank you for taking the time. sir, i want to start with you. as we are watching that, you have spoken out, and consistently spoken out, what goes to your head when you see people who know better defending trump, as they just did? >> it is really frustrating because, as you noted, some of the things i have said publicly about donald trump are horrible and then they are going on and endorsing him. i can only imagine that the things they say privately. i've talked with a lot of republicans high up, elected officials and things like that who will pass them privately but many of them will not even same it publicly. >> and once bashed him publicly. >> these folks have bashed him publicly and still going forward and supporting him. a lot of times what they often say is that they are supporting him because of the policies, that they want the conservative agenda. and, where i get frustra

joining us now to discuss, we have former republican congressman of illinois, joe walsh and also sarah matthew. she served as deputy press secretary during the trump administration. joe, i mean through there to promote election integrity and without irony, no, no less >> yeah. >> brianna and jessica, can we just for a moment, pause and not brush by this and get into the politics like, what does it mean that speaker johnson's down there by his side? johnson's down there with trump to talk about election integrity donald trump tried to overthrow an american election. he's been indicted twice on his efforts to overthrow an american election brianna i'd add this donald trump on the stump at every one of his rallies so far this year is telling his voters, again that either he will win or the election will be stolen from him so all ready, he's undermining our election. we cannot become numb to what this is >> sarah, it's worth noting and kristen touched on this. there is no a federal law prevents any noncitizen for voting. so no state is allowing that to happen. there is some nuance with these local

joining me now sarah matthews, former white house deputy press secretary for donald trump and cnn senior political commentator, van jones. thank you both. for coming in on this historic morning van first, can you just speak to the nature of what we are about to witness in this country of former president heading to a felony trial i mean, use the term unprecedented over and over and over again with this president. but this is truly an present. this is not like a bizarre tweet or some weird thing he said are dead are some lie this is a criminal proceeding against a former president united states. i don't think he had a foreign president traffic ticket. i can remember a lifetime. so this is a big deal. this is not the case that is about the the attack on the capitol. it's not about the stolen documents. it is about his pattern and practice of lying and stealing and trying to bend the rules to his benefit, paying off somebody to make sure that he didn't have to pay to be held accountable. well, seven years ago is gonna be held accountable now >> sir, i'm curious about because they and just b

. >> joining our conversation, sarah matthews is back with us.d went on to testify publicly before the january 6th select committee. also joining us at the table, former chief of staff at the department of homeland security, miles taylor is here. the, the author of the newly released paperback edition with a great update for the 2024 election, "blowback." you were out, we were talking, miles, about blue came out as anonymous. you were still in or had just left and you write about the entire cabinet discussing openly the 25th amendment. donald trump is the first ex-president to run without to support of his vp or without the support of any of his cabinet, and this extraordinary new amicus brief from members of the military warning that he's a threat basically to the world order, to the democracy and to the military, where everyone? where is everyone knows that he's a clear and present danger? >> first, i've got to say, nicole, it is remarkable and to put that into historical context, there is no historical context. no pthd has faced this level of

matthew laza. still to come now my difficult conversation today is sarah de lagarde, a resilient mother of two whoe and is calling for a comprehensive review of tfl's safety procedures. sarah advocates for change and don't miss that interview that is on the way, then, for the great british debate this hour. i'm asking were the police right to threaten arrest? now the metropolitan police is under fire after an officer was filmed telling a jewish man that his presence was antagonising a pro—palestine in london. pro—palestine march in london. as ever. get in touch gb news. com forward slash your say . so com forward slash your say. so seven minutes after 5:00 and it's seven minutes after 5:00 and wsfime seven minutes after 5:00 and it's time now for this week's difficult conversation in a tragic accident at high barnet station. sarah de lagarde endured life changing injuries after falling between a stationary train and the platform, leading to the loss of her arm and leg. now she has issued a legal claim at the high court against transport for london, as she calls for a comprehensive review of tfl's s

. >> and, matthew, i'm just reading here that, you know, the response from the labour party to this affront to the british taxpayer has been labour's sarah is also the chair of the international development select committee, who actually thinks thing about this thinks the bad thing about this is we're not giving more is that we're not giving more money abroad. is that we're not giving more mo wellbroad. is that we're not giving more mo well ,road. is that we're not giving more mo well , this is a well, this is >> well, this is a well, this is the government is committed to spending this on international aid, and yet it fudges the figures that it can spend the figures so that it can spend the money asylum seekers. money on asylum seekers. >> internationals have come >> the internationals have come here well think that what >> well, well i think that what we is an asylum system that we need is an asylum system that works. mocked the european works. you mocked the european pact. of this european pact. the idea of this european pact. the idea of this european pact people are pact is that people are processed in five not five processed in fiv