joining us to discuss is sarah mcbride. the controversy of saudi arabia being involved in the first run, are they investors or not? sarah: it is leading to all sorts of conspiracy theories, but they will probably quietly commit as an investor later on. emily: how will the new fund different from the first fund? sarah: there are a lot more investors in this new fund. softbank has a much bigger piece of the pie. they are just going to have to try a little harder to find good investments this time around. emily: we didn't talk about it much, but apple, microsoft being in the first fund? sarah: microsoft was not. emily: apple was. talk about the strategy of some of these tech giants, letting softbank place some fund bets. sarah: there was so much skepticism around the first fund. $100 billion seemed impossible. for their first press release for that fund, they said we will deploy this cash over five years. it has only been three years and they are raising even more. in a way, that has been successful far more than anyone thought

joel: that's what sarah mcbride talks about.he story of the heist is about the mice who try to get away with it and the cats trying to get them. this is about the cats, the law enforcement in the national parks trying to confront this problem of coming into parks and walking out with girls from redwoods or cacti, and turning to technology to help enforce that so that maybe you get away with it but they will find you. carol: let's get more on plant poachers. jason: sarah mcbride joins us from san francisco. learned was two different times. old-growth takes hundreds and hundreds of years to develop. sometimes a thousand years or more. then there's a second growth redwood, which grows up much more quickly in its younger trees. and so, a lot of the redwood that is legally for sale is this newer redwood, and it's perfectly legal to cut down redwood on private property. where you run into problems is if it's this type of redwood that has taken hundreds of years to develop, that has the type of majesty and dimension that you can't find

carol: here is sarah mcbride. ick doblin is into his 60's and has spent his whole career making drugs more accepted and legalized. in part, because he believes they can be helpful in treating a number of ailments including , including people with ptsd. he thinks a really good way to treat people who have come back from wars or policeman or victims of violent crime is with a combination of mdma, which people know as e or ecstasy or molly, and talk therapy. and he has all the studies that prove how effective it is, and he has gotten the fda on board. he has gone through phase one trials and now is in the middle of the phase three trials. all bankrolled by his nonprofit, called maps. it is very expensive, and he finds a lot of investors at burning man. jason: amidst the experimentation, drug taking, and the nakedness that happens at burning man, he was essentially looking for money. how successful was he? sarah: yeah, so it is a fine line. technically, burning man is a cashless society, it is not a commercial society.

of mcbride al jazeera hong kong. and sarah clarke has more from hong kong. the practices of now being cleared off the streets of hong kong where they block those main highways off larf it is in the central business district which is where we are now and traffic has returned to normal that these protests were nisshin just about the anger of the extradition bill but that bill has now been dumped altogether but the angle of the message is now brought up these protesters want beijing to withdraw restraint pulled back from its tightening grip on hong kong that we have more rallies planned again next weekend i should also start there was a separate incident last night in a place called good long which is in the new territories where we had a group of people wearing white we targeted those protesters returning from yesterday as much as another the mob wearing white they were holding a big metal devices and i beat those passages i think janice and i beat politicians who tried to escape from the trying to avoid these violent confrontations and now the police have def