sarah palin, and texas governor rick perry, and new york city mayor rudy giuliani, and we are joined by mark murray, and we say this as if their names have just sprouted up. i want to start with rick perry, because "forbes" just released the top cities that should recover and be the next boom and three of the top five were texas cities. >> well, if rick perry, who is the governor of texas, and odds are that he will, because he is making phone calls to conservative activists in iowa and new hampshire and if he gets in, he has a ability to capture the tea party message and say that somebody like mitt romney governs like a liberal and i govern like a conservative. >> what is taking him so long? >> well, opening up the field, and people like mitt daniels and haley barbour did not run and newt gingrich's campaign implosion allowed a lot of of rick pey's former staffers who were working with gingrich to join up with perry. >> and sarah palin says that coming soon at the end of the summer, she will make a decision. >> well, the odds on favorite is that she is probably not going to run. to be able to run f