. >> behind, a famous texas named -- ray hunt and sarah perot?> she's an alumni. >> is she married here? >> ross perot, jr.." she is an smu alumni so we are pleased to have them be part of our family. >> how big is your board? >> 42. we have the president of faculty senate, a voting student, and alumni, and three bishops from the united methodist church on the board. it turned over more or less every four years and people have to be reaffirmed. there is a term limit of three four year terms and there can be exceptions. by and large that is stayed with. 42 is a good size and it obviously cannot leave governed university but encourage others to be a part of the university. >> go back to the first moment you tried to get george w. bush to bring his library and museum here on this campus. >> the first time we set it in action when he was running we said, "would it be nice?" after the vote in florida, the next morning, i walked into my vice president for executive affairs position, the one i had at oklahoma, and i asked dr. barry what he knew about pr