>> sarah sidner, thank you so much. joining us now the cincinnati mayor and baltimore police commissioner. you are both part of a police reform and racial justice working group that the u.s. conference of mayors launched earlier this week, part of the group's initiative is to come up with alternatives to dismantling police departments. mayor, let's start with you. what changes is your group considering? >> well, here in cincinnati, we went through a court-imposed process back in 2002. i was a city councilman at the time and helped negotiate that. and it is widely considered a role model across the country. and i like to describe it as having three major components. first, change in use of force, banning chokeholds, using the baton less, changing from escalation to de-escalation. second is transparency and accountability, body cameras provide enormous transparency. we have them outfitted on our officers. and having a citizen complaint authority to look into specific allegations of misconduct. and, lastly, is changing our