i could not sing it like sarah vaughn.m say and you always have to work things out for yourself first, and then you are the only one you knew it did not work. tavis: if it don't work. you said two things about new orleans that i wanted to go back on. when you first heard okey dokey on the radio, you did not have a lot to look forward to as a black kid in the south and did not even know who you were. >> that is right. tavis: how did you find out who you work, how did you come into your own humanity >> i have travelled many, many miles across this country. it was in 1957. i went to families day and heard the honorable elijah muhammed at madison square garden. 19 years old. he said, you have got to come here. tavis: for the young people watching, i have to make it clear that that is muhammad ali, and used to be cassius clay. >> it was not about somebody coming to sab. it was not about somebody flying through the clouds. he said, "you have got to save yourself." you are somebody. i had sold 50 million records, and every time i