i guess-- >> i think that was pre-sarbanes oxley. >> john: it was worth it just for the line "you complete. thank you deroy murdoch and the atlas foundation and i should add that other argue, are liberty. brave heart, 1984, enemy of the state, south park, actually. and v for vendetta. the tag line was, people shouldn't fear their government. government should fear their people. up next, ladies of liberty. a new book celebrates them. [applause]. [applause] >> when we look at images that depict the founding of america, we have a few here. one thing is consistent. most every picture and person is male. where were you the women? did they do anything to help with independence? yes, they did. author of ladies for liberty. and a new book that celebrate 20 american women who fount for women. you are a british guy and you are writing about american women. >> five years ago, i wrote this book margaret thatcher, portrait of the iron lady and that led to a lot of speaking engagements in the united states and i am shocked how many of those people say what a pity we never had a margaret thatcher in our

i guess-- >> i think that was pre-sarbanes oxley. >> john: it was worth it just for the line "you complete. thank you deroy murdoch and the atlas foundation and i should add that other argue, are liberty. brave heart, 1984, enemy of the state, south park, actually. and v for vendetta. the tag line was, people shouldn't fear their government. government should fear their people. up next, ladies of liberty. a new book celebrates them. [applause]. i'm robert shapiro. over a million people have discovered how easy it is to use legalzoom for important legal documents. at legalzoom we'll help you incorporate your business, file a patent, make a will and more. you can complete our online questions in minutes. then we'll prepare your legal documents and deliver them directly to you. so start your business, protect your family, launch your dreams. at legalzoom.com, we put the law on your side. metamucil uses super hard working psyllium fiber, which gels to remove unsexy waste and reduce cholesterol. taking psyllium fiber won't make you a model but you should feel a little more super. metamucil. dow

third, the last time we had this big crash was sarbanes oxley which has done nothing to forestall theh. yes, i get those 50-page agreements. i read most of them. the fact of the matter is just because government mandates you write something done doesn't ultimately inform the final buyer. >> sarbanes oxley was meant to stop ceos from saying they didn't know what was going on. now it is the law that a ceo -- i guess there's this issue. david brings it up, you bring it up and will brings it up. there can be overregulation but is the answer to not regulate? >> in this case we have sufficient regulation already. you point out, you do for a home loan. first of all, most loans are granted through fannie and freddie mac. we have extraordinary oversight on those two agencies. why do we have to do more. credit cards are a subset of that. there's a lot of reporting requirements. good gracious, if they change anything on your requirements us a stack of paper in the mail every senile time. it is not a problem of fundamental regulation, it's a problem of informed consent as david suggested. you're

the reason i called for repealing dodd-frank and obamacare and sarbanes-oxley, you have these huge layers of bureaucratic micromanagement that are crippling the american system. they're making it much harder for us to create the kind of jobs we would like. wenorth dakota today, have a boom in oil development. unemployment is down to 3%. that tax cuts to the state level because the oil was on private land. if it had been on public land, the environmentalist and barack obama would have stop this developing and north dakota would be mired in a 9% unemployment. get the tax incentives right in you can create an amazing number of jobs very fast. >> my thanks to my panelists. so is the section of our conversation. the final abbottabad from tampa tonight coming up after this last break. -- final part of our debate from tampa tonight coming up after this plast breath. [applause] >> welcome back to tampa. our final section of our conversation tonight. we're back identify the zero states. i thought we would talk about the big picture. this has been called, in addition to this unprecedented primary c

[applause] >> i would repeal sarbanes-oxley which is a bill that has added tremendous amount of paperwork for no particular advantage. i would replace the environmental protective agency with a new agency that had to apply common sense and had to apply economic rationity to its decisions and i would modernize the food and drug administration an energy. i am deeply committed to an american energy program. you watch what is happening in the middle east, we are very foolish not to have an american energy program. callista and i were at the reagan library for president reagan's 100th birthday. we had lunch with former secretary of state george shultz. how many times do you have to get over the head with a two by four to realize that we need to get the energy situation fixed. that's why i favor an american energy program, american oil and gas, american croal, american nuclear power, american wind and solar, iowa ranks only second to denmark in wind power. i also favor the development of biofuels. in 1984, some of you were old enough to remember i voted for something called gasahol which ronald

i would repeal sarbanes-oxley, which is a bill that's added a tremendous amount of paperwork for no particular advantage. i would replace the current environmental protection agency for a brand-new environmental solutions agency that had to apply common sense and economic rationality to its decisions and i would modernize the food and drug administration. on energy, i am deeply committed to an american energy program. if you watch what's happening in the middle east, we are very foolish not to have an american energy program. calista and i were at the reagan library for president reagan's 100th birthday and we had lunch with former secretary of -- secretary of state george schulz who said how many times do you have to get hit over the head by a two by four to recognize you need to get the energy situation fixes? -- fixed? that's why we want american coal and oil and garks american nuclear power, america -- american wind power. iowa ranks second only to denmark in wind power. and you may remember in 1994 i voted for something called gasohol which reagan signed as part of our national security e

had sarbanes oxley which was fresh regulations that corporate community was very disparaging. and was was not happy and was dismissive and that in contrast he said that china seems to be more and more looking towards good governance and striving towards that and it's really this perception issue are now lastly we didn't get to the ts today but there is a theme to the world economic forum this time around it's about shaping new models and so you know you and i talked about the fact that their political leaders business leaders of over seventy billionaires there but in such crazy times you know is it really in their hands or they really think that they can shape the new models at this moment. that is a great question because so far you know you and i have been talking about this from the lens of the occupy protesters or you know the ninety nine percent that feel that they're shut out of the discussion and that's very hubris stick this one percent of elite around the globe to come together and say oh we can solve the world's problems but then there's another layer to this that i

of great things, repealing a lot of programs such as, of course, obamacare, but dodd-frank and sarbanes oxley and he wants to get rid of a ton of things and he has a pro growth tax plan and eliminate capital gains and lower the tax rates and he wants to do a lot of things but the traffic record is very, very weak, and he supported part (&z) medicare and supported tax and raid with hillary clinton so i give him a c. >>neil: and mitt romney? >>guest: mitt romney for being the frontrunner he actually deserves to be in last place on this because it is a very uninspired idea. he barely wants to work with the tax code and he wants to lower spending to 20 percent of g.d.p. from the current 24 percent. tax revenue is 18 percent so he is trying to institutionalize a permanent deficit. he talks about doing a balanced budget amendment and talks about tax reform but strock part of the platform. >>neil: huntsman? >>guest: he gets an incomplete. very good on taxes. he has a lot of good ideas about lowering the tax rate and getting rid of capital gains but no spending program at all so he gets an incomplete

repeal sarbanes-oxley as the third order of business.goal will be to have three bills delivered to my desk that i can sign the very first day to get us off on the right track and prove we are serious about changing washington. [applause] so if revealing dodd frank will help with the price of housing and the market, the first thing you have to do to repeal dodd frank is defeat barack obama. it is very straightforward. let me remind you, the way our constitution works the presidency by itself is not enough. i will be committed to running a team election this fall. i will seek to elect a republican to the house and senate. that means here we have to replace bill nelson with a conservative. [applause] we have done this before. i worked in the 1980 campaign and helped cheer the first capitol steps in 1980. we brought all the candidates together with gov. reagan. we had five major issues. as a result of the momentum that came out of that, we won six u.s. senate seats by a total margin of 75,000 votes. we took control of the senate when nobody

congress passed a lot, sarbanes oxley which made until they had done something but then you have thiser world that was similarly connected in a sense with things like mortgage-backed securities market. in the 2000 time period in the last decade through the collapse there were huge amounts of momentum pushing those kinds of markets forward. president of the united states were behind it. everyone should own a home. republicans and democrats were happily saying let's make it easier to own homes. let's not take a look at how it is happening. can they actually afford it? whether people are lying on their loan applications? the system in that area got almost laughably uncontrolled and nobody seemed to care. there were stories that raise red flags but it was such a huge tidal wave of activity and optimism. maybe journalists could have stopped it or done more. but there was a certain systemic, large numbers of people involved in it. it didn't stop until they couldn't keep the merry-go-round going anymore. >> other questions? over here? >> thank you for coming in and speaking with us. one of m

session on january 3rd and i would ask them to repeal obama care, repeal dodd-frank and repeal sarbanes oxley >> hold them to that and i would like on the day i'm inaugurated to sign the repeal of all three, that would give you sort of a jump start and the same day i want to sign an executive order abolishing all of the white house czars as of that moment and gives us the right direction. >> mr. speaker only about 30 seconds left and ask you a quick one to close out the segment. if there's anything about the election laws that you could change, if you had the power, universally to do it, what would it be. >> i would eliminate the current mickey mouse bureaucracy and limits and i would say anyone can give any amount of after tax income to the campaign if they report it every night, you get rid of the super pacs, get rid of the negativity and then the candidates would be in control and the candidates would be responsible, it would be a dramatically better system and more honorable system. >> mike: mr. speaker, thank you very much. great to have you here. >> my pleasure. [applause] >> we're goin

third, i will ask them to repeal sarbanes oxley which has had no product and has increased the cost ofrican jobs. i would like all three of those past and i would like to ask the members of our team to work on passing all three by the time i am sworn in on january 20th. on january 20th, i will sign all three on the first day of the presidency as a sign of the change in washington. on at the inauguration day, two hours after the inaugural address, a series of executive orders. all of them will have beenall on published by october 1st so everyone will know what is coming. the first will eliminate all of the white house czars. [applause] you can go to newt.org and let us know if you think we should do. my goal is on the first day, about the time obama rides back in chicago that we will have dismantled 40% of his government. i for debated in the reagan -- i participated in the reagan campaign and we had the first event in history where we won six seats by a combined total of 75,000 votes. the american people. during his presidency. [applause] there have been two stagnant -- the economy had

repealing dodd-frank, repealing sarbanes-oxley, and we need to give her a chance at a job. second, we need real health reform. not the obama style, but we need health reform that allows her to buy in, and dr. paul is right. get the same tax break if she buys personally or whether she buys through a company. she should also be able to buy into an association so she's buying with lots of other people so it is not single insurance, which is the most expensive kind. you combine those two, reforming the insurance system and getting the economy growing again so people are back at work., you cure an awful lot of america's problems with those two steps and put her back in a position where she's in charge of her life. she's not dependent on barack obama to take care of her. >> that plan work for you, governor? >> actually what both these gentlemen said is pretty much spot-on. and i'll add a couple of things. i want to underscore something both of them said, and that is right now in america, if you have insurance, you most likely got it through your employer. and the reason is, your

one of the things a lot of people talk about is sarbanes-oxley, the financial regulations in particularthe way that stops a lot of those smaller businesses starting up. undoubtedly, there are things that could be done. it's a balancing act, as you know, and clearly, we don't want to poison our water, we don't want to pollute the air. there are issues that -- you know, there are legitimate concerns, regulation is there for a reason. it's not there for no reason. and so you have to make sure that you respect those things. but i think you're right, i think regulation has to be one of the things we look at. as you say, not the whole answer, because i don't think anything is the whole answer, but it's got to be part of it. >> i like your crime scene metaphor. we know the system's not working. because we know there are a bunch of people and we know there's a bunch of things they could be doing. and we know there's a pile of money. we just can't figure out why the pile of money is not working with the people -- you're like, this is -- something's wrong here. karen, go ahead. >> hi. so my quest

i would ask them to repeal sarbanes oxley which has added paperwork and gained nothing.ause] i would like all three of those done before january 20 so when i'm sworn in they can bring them in and i consign the repeal of all three and get to work in a positive way. on the inaugural, i would have a series of executive orders about two hours after the inaugural, the first of which would abolish all the while houseczars as of that moment. [applause] other regulatory reforms -- we should replace the environmental protection agency with a brand new environmental solutions agency. we should not retire any of the radicals currently trying to destroy the american economy. [applause] everywhere i go municipalities tell me how they are being dictated to by washington bureaucrats who have never visited their 10, have no idea about reality, have no concern about the budget and simply issue washington dictates that are destructive. the epa is the largest job killing agency in the federal government. [applause] i would also go to a 21st century food and drug administration on a particu

and dodd-frank would fail such tests, as would the 2002 sarbanes-oxley law.008 and early 2009, the securities and exchange commission surveyed publicly traded firms affected by section 404 of sarbanes-oxley, and it found -- i'm quoting now -- "that a mowing felt that the costs of compliance outweighed the benefits. this was especially true among smaller companies." while president obama pays lip service to economic growth on the campaign trail, many of his policies have undermined that goal. it's hard to create jobs at the bottom when you're obsessed with attacking people at the top. the case for growth and success-oriented policies is not just practical, it's moral. the biggest economic favor that policymakers can do for americans is to support policies that make more opportunity, mobility and the possibility of earned success. a senator: mr. president. the presiding officer: the senator from new mexico. mr. udall: mr. president, i rise today as we enter a new year and i rise to honor a brave young soldier who sadly did not see this new year. army sergeant p

and i will ask them to pass the repeal of sarbanes oxley, which is crippling american businesses withoal is to have all three bills sitting there, waiting, so the minute i am sworn in, i can sign all three and we're off to a pretty good opening morning. [ cheers and applause ] now, those three promises are conditional. we have to win the senate by a big enough margin to manage it. and we have to increase our strength in the house. help me do that, i'll do those for you. let me tell you some things and we'll put this together in a way that you'll be able to see in writing with my signature and you'll be able to hold me accountable. there are a series of executive orders i can issue that the congress can't stop as long as they're within the law. the very first executive order will abolish all of the white house czars as of that moment. [ cheers and applause ] we will issue immediately an executive order on the same day. all this is going to happen about two hours after the inaugural address. okay. no point in hanging out and having fun. before we get to go to the various balls that nigh

i would -- the dodd-frank bill, the sarbanes-oxley bill. and i would modernize the food and drug administration. on energy, i am deeply committed to an american energy program. if you watch what is happening in the middle east, we are very foolish not to have an american energy program. callisto and i were at the reagan library for president reagan's 100th birthday and we had lunch with former secretary state george shultz, who said how many times do you have to get hit over the head with a two by four to realize that we need to get the energy situation fixed? that is why i favor an american energy program, american oil and gas, american coal, american nuclear power, american wind and solar. iowa ranks second only to denmark in wind power. i also favor the development of biofuels. in 1984 i voted for something called gasohol, which ron reagan signed as part of our national energy program. in 1986, it had been renamed ethanol, and i signed it again. in 1998, when big oil tried to kill it, chuck grassley said i was the one person who saved et

third, i will ask them to repeal sarbanes oxley which has had no product and has increased the cost of american jobs. i would like all three of those past and i would like to ask the members of our team to work on passing all three by the time i am sworn in on january 20th. on january 20th, i will sign all three on the first day of the presidency as a sign of the change in washington. on at the inauguration day, two hours after the inaugural address, a series of executive orders. all of them will have been published by october 1st so everyone will know what is coming. the first will eliminate all of the white house czars. [applause] and let go to newt.otrg us know if you think we should do. my goal is on the first day, about the time obama rides back in chicago that we will have dismantled 40% of his government. i for debated in the reagan campaign and we had the first event in history where we brought the team together and we won six seats by a combined total of 75,000 votes. we went to work by the help of the american people. tip o'neill was the speaker of the house to. we passed the

we passed sarbanes-oxley. why should we coalesce behind conservatives who aren't conservatives. they're big government conservatives. that's why there's frustration out there panned that's why people started the tea party movement. i don't know why people don't understand this. >> looking at congressman, at how fractured it may appear to some people, can there be any sort of coalition among -- for a republican candidate? let's leave the conservative issue outside of it. can the republican party come together on one message? >> well, obviously. that's what we're doing. we're bringing people together with a freedom message. it's not divisive because it's based on tolerance and acceptance. it's based on conservative principles of balanced budgets. you bring people together and i love the fact that you use the word coalition because most people phrase that question by saying oh, how are you going to compromise with big spenders so you can gather people in. your question was a perfect question and framed correctly. you want to build coalitions because different people want limited go

when you have that alongside sarbanes oxley, it takes away the person's right to face their accusers. you cannot even find a lawyer to stand for you on that one. those two loss canceled your ability to stand up for yourself when people come up against you. that is the one thing that is wrong with ron paul. other than that, he is the only candidate in the group that i have any respect for. host: a comment on facebook. sosasam writes -- pensacola, florida. michael is a democratic caller. caller: i wanted to say, huntsman is the only one that is qualified to be president. the rest of them, like ronald reagan, he is probably turning over in his grave seeing the rest of these people. they have no sense. that is all i have got to say. host: another michael, this one is a republican. caller: i believe most of jon huntsman's votes will go to ron paul. jon huntsman was the only one in the race that was pretty much anti-war. i believe the peace candidate will win eventually. if you look at it, ron paul is the on the one that gets consistent independent and democratic votes. if we think mitt rom

[applause] i will ask them to repeal sarbanes-oxley.applause] i never had a class that was quite this rowdy. here is the goal -- when i get sworn in, there are three bills that they can put down their bank, and on the first day, we will repeal obamacare, repeal dodd-frank, repeal sarbanes- oxley. that is just the opening. [applause] i already mentioned the war against religion. the first executive order i will sign will abolish all the white house czars. [applause] we will also have an executive order instructing the state department to open the embassy in jerusalem. [applause] one of the topics and went to the very first day relates to one of the president's most destructive decisions. it's truly amazing that the president of the united states would be to the keystone pipeline. just to take care of his environmental extremist friends. it makes perfect sense for the pipeline to come out of central canada, go straight down to houston,, and then you have 30- 50 years of processing the resources. the danger is that the canadians, out of fr

you talk about dodd-frank, but we gave them sarbanes-oxley.now, when we're in charge, so if it means limited government, you have to ask the basic question, what should the role of government be? the founders wrote a constitution. they said the role of government ought to be to protect liberty. it's not to run a welfare state and not to be the policeman of the world. and so if you're going to be conservative, how can you be conservative and cut food stamps, but you won't cut spending overseas? there's not a nickel or penny that anybody will cut on the conservative side overseas spending, and we don't have the money. they're willing to start more wars. i say if you're conservative, you want small government across the board, especially in potential liberty. what's wrong with having people, the government out of our personal lives? so this is what -- we have to decide what conservative means, what limited government means, and i have a simple suggestion. we have a pretty good guide, and if we follow the constitution, government would be very sma

[applause] i will ask them to repeal sarbanes-oxley.applause] i never had a class that was quite this rowdy. here is the goal -- when i get sworn in, there are three bills that they can put down their bank, and on the first day, we will repeal obamacare, repeal dodd-frank, repeal sarbanes-oxley. that is just the opening. [applause] i already mentioned the war against religion. the first executive order i will sign will abolish all the white house czars. [applause] we will also have an executive order instructing the state department to open the embassy in jerusalem. [applause] one of the topics and went to the very first day relates to one of the president's most destructive decisions. that they amazing president of the united states would be to the keystone pipeline. just to take care of his environmental extremist friends. it makes perfect sense for the pipeline to come out of central canada, go straight down to houston,, and then you have 30- 50 years of processing the resources. the danger is that the canadians, out of frustration w

we've looked at things like making it easier for people to go public, have an on-ramp for sarbanes-oxleyd recognize the role entrepreneurs play and make sure government is playing a role so entrepreneurs like those that are here today can drive our economy. and ensure a more competitive global world. other countries are stepping up their game. weep need to double down on entrepreneurship and that's what the startup america partnership is all about. >> we have the ceo and co-founder of hiccup-pops? >> yes. >> what is it. >> it's a company that abased off of a lollipop that stops hiccups. >> how old if you have. >> 13. >> we have a lot of great ideas from entrepreneurs willing to take the risk and drive our economy in the future. >> could you have gotten this done without scott and steve? >> i'm sure they could have been we're trying to provide a little booster. >> congratulations, guys. steve case, scott case, thank you very much. >> we might be talking about these companies down the line as ipos, you never know. let's head to headquarters. david is there with the faber report. >> very in

if you like sarbanes-oxley, which cost the economy so much more than essays in preventing abuses, sub 10 has a whole host of separation power problems creating new agencies and bureaucracies in the senate that congress can even touch. there the road legislators, judges and juries give the consumer finance protection board is one of those agencies and we can even get its leadership in a constitutional manner. these recess appointments when there is no research. on the energy front, keystone xl. i'm not going to argue environmental economics. but on the face of the law, the president was not allowed to delay implementation of the project for the reason he gave, what is there needs to be more environmental impact studies. by the last was addressed in in the compromise of the debt ceiling, congress put in a lot in the president signed that would not be a reason in it. shutting down that problem. deepwater horizon, the federal judge cited the government and contempt for implementing its moratorium on drilling for no good reason. the legalese is so striking and strong. the government was ci

dodd-frank, which is killing small banks, small business, and housing -- [applause] and to repeal sarbanes-oxley, which has added tons of paperwork to no benefit to anyone. congress will do that, then on the first day in congress, i will sign all three repeals, and we can start getting back to work creating jobs in america. let me also say to you the number one key to bringing housing values back up is to create jobs. if we create jobs in sufficient quantity, prices will rise because people will be able to pay for it, and as people's incomes go up, they will have a desire to live better, move into better homes, and be more engaged. i am committed. you can go to newt.org to see a program for zero capital gains tax to see a program and a plan to get it started. the 12.5% corporate tax rate which will make us competitive everywhere in the world and will enable us to bring back home $700 billion in profits that are locked up overseas, and we will get general electric to pay taxes because it will be a low enough rate they will fire the lawyers and pay the tax. [applause] something for all the home bu

a program which would start with frankly repealing obamacare, repealing dodd-frank, repealing sarbanes- oxley. [applause] and we need to give her a chance at a job. second, we need real health reform, not the obama style, but we need health reform that allows her to buy in. and dr. paul is right. she ought to get the same tax break whether she buys personally or whether she buys through a economy. she should also be able to buy into an association so that she's buying with lots of other people so it's not single insurance, which is the most expensive kind. but you combine those two, reforming the insurance system and getting the economy growing again so people are back at work, you cure an awful lot of america's problems with those two steps, and you put her back in a position where she's in charge of her life; she's not dependent on barack obama to take care of her. [applause] [applause] blitzer: that plan work for you governor? romney: actually, what both these gentlemen said is pretty much spot-on. and i'd -- and i'll add a couple of things. one, i want to underscore something both of them

sarbanes/oxley repeal. privatize fannie and freddie. pretty good financial package just to clean up the mess. >> can i ask you quickly, stop that. you're making trouble now. >> really quickly now let me ask one final question. if i've endorsed fred thompson four years ago i'd ablittle shy. >> oh, now. >> did he show up -- >> and you endorse a guy and then he sits in a balounger. one thing that disturbs me as a conservative like you is that republicans took control of the house of representatives a year ago. we heard about how right wing and how radical they are. we've heard about how they want to tear down the government. they want to cut and slash too much. >> burn the place down to use your words, joe. >> exactly. >> do you use those words? >> de. >> do you get to the end of the year though? guess what? we added another trillion dollars in debt. another trillion dollars. as you know, article one section seven says all spending bills start in the house. what can the republican majority do over the next year to win more of these battles

i would ask them to repeal sarbanes oxley which has added paperwork and gained nothing.se] i would like all three of those done before january 20 so when i'm sworn in they can bring them in and i consign the repeal of all three and get to work in a positive way. on the inaugural, i would have a series of executive orders about two hours after the inaugural, the first of which would abolish all the while houseczars as of that moment. [applause] other regulatory reforms -- we should replace the environmental protection agency with a brand new environmental solutions agency. we should not retire any of the -- rehire any of the radicals currently trying to destroy the american economy. [applause] everywhere i go municipalities tell me how they are being dictated to by washington bureaucrats who have never visited their 10, have no idea about reality, have no concern about the budget and simply issue washington dictates that are destructive. the epa is the largest job killing agency in the federal government. [applause] i would also go to a 21st century food and drug administ