>> i was just kidding with somebody earlier i said we spend so much on sarbanes oxley and on tax.partment i said, oh, mynd go, that spells fat. if we could spend it on product innovation and marketing, we could do more things like this >> you just said, oh, politics is boring. when you hear tupperware -- >> it's unbelievable the ceo of tupperware, sarbanes oxley >> what is that other thing over there? >> oh, this converts -- this was conceived in france. there is metal inside it what happens is you fill the bottom with water. you set this inside. you put lobster or shrimp in there. you put produce up here. it has a metal shield. you set it for seven minutes, and it's done. >> who would think about using microwaves who didn't think about microwaves >> i have to say when microwaves first came out back in the early 1980s, my mom took a microwave cooking kras to figure out how to cook a turkey in the microwave with this stupid thing that they would put into it. >> the old thermometer >> the thermometer thing was how they did it. we'll get that that was -- it kind of went by the waysid