. >> the only point i am trying to make, i am not trying to be sarcastic, it is ridiculous that we're word, we're worried about public option plan, by put these private companies of business or they won't make enough profit. what should be our party concern is making sure we get the best deal for the consumer so they get health care and a premium dollars spent on health care, i don't care if the united states chamber of commerce or the labour unions or anybody else, all members want to get a decent deal on this and all of them are outraged at the high salaries the executives make and the amount of money spent on marketing and the amount of money that goes into not just profit but outrageous profits, i don't understand sensitivities of all of us around here about being so concerned about their existence and their ability to keep on doing that to the consumer. if we are going to walk away from single payer, that disturbs me considerably, at least we ought to fight to make sure they participate in the exchange which is a benefit to them, they ought to at least give something back to the