we are finally in sardinia. almost. the route is really intimidating. so, it goes up and to the left. >> it's dangerous. >> reporter: the new climb is perfectly named. a madman's journey. it's 1 tho,000 feet of climb in. it's near impossible. >> it's actually happening, man. i get to the wall, it actually kind of all of a sudden hit me, like, what are we getting into? >> reporter: so few people attempt this climb. sasha and her partner spent days just exploring a wall reclaimed by nature. >> you are essential trusting your life to this person's hands. and when you think about it, it's pretty hefty stuff. climbing is full of failure. each success comes in really small doses. i don't want to do this. i just can't. >> reporter: every moment of desperation captured on film. >> you are having to really contort yourself in order to stay still and to get these shots in a certain way. >> and that's tough when you're up there, so, you know, these harnesses start to wear on you after awhile and you're squirming around a lot. you are -- all the blood seems to be r

the more mountainous areas, in sardinia, there is an isthmus that comes out with an indian tribe. there are five or six areas. without exception, one thing they all have in common is they don't let older people get lonely. and if their families die under them, that is their children and grandchildren, they are given almost ceremonial status within their communities with roles to play and meaningful contacts on a consistent basis. there's huge amounts of evidence to support what you said. loneliness is a health matter. >> just to add to that, but our system doesn't pay for it. it doesn't help bring it. if you think about the impact that you just talked about. >> it wouldn't be very expensive if we were organized. other societies do more simple and rural areas. >> there's many areas we can talk about. i want to build on what you were talking about, bruce. utilizing technology to start helping exactly what you talked about. and that is, for some reason we have not allowed the likes of telemedicine or telehealth to become just part of our fabric as it relates to the health care system

the more mountainous areas, in sardinia, not yet populated by fast food places. there is an isthmus that comes out with an indian tribe. there are five or six areas. without exception, one thing they all have in common is they don't let older people get lonely. and if their families die under them, that is their children and grandchildren, they are given almost ceremonial status within their communities with roles to play and meaningful contacts on a consistent basis. there's huge amounts of evidence to support what you said. loneliness is a health matter. >> just to add to that, but our system doesn't pay for it. it doesn't help bring it. if you think about the impact that you just talked about. >> it wouldn't be very expensive if we were organized. other societies do more simple and rural areas. >> there's many areas we can talk about. i want to build on what you were talking about, bruce. utilizing technology to start helping exactly what you talked about. and that is, for some reason we have not allowed the likes of telemedicine or telehealth to become just p