. >> and the subsidies are quite substantial, sascha?> well, the reality is that all of us have subsidized health care, so if you are thinking of that is being spent in the deductions of the employer health care, and looking at the $11 billion. i am not saying it is not a lot of money, but it is not anywhere near. and who among us is going to say, here, take my subsidy back. >> gary b, what do you say? >> well, the bigger issue is that once again we have faith that the government can somehow run an efficient program. it can't whether it social security, the v.a. hospital or for crying out loud, the interstate system or the landing on the moon and you can argue whether they were successes or failures but the fact of the matter is that the government says that a dollar is going to spend, you can count it is $10 to be spent. >> jonah. >> and who wouldn't want a little bit of equity and we have a revenue model tied with this which is the dow, because it has a capital gains component, and fortunately the high costs will be paid for by high ta

i thought she was maybe getting ready for sascha and malia the way any good mother would. bit player. >> she's not a bit player in this big story. >> by the way, you're right. i mean, you know, of course you would expect michele obama to say we're ready for a woman president. she might have said that in 2007 if her husband hadn't run, right? >> gloria borger, errol louis, thank you for being with us. always appreciate it. coming up for us, the man who stared down lawmakers on capitol hill. >> i did not, if you have any evidence of that i'd be happy to see it. >> i asked a question. >> and i answered it. >> so what prepared the new irs commissioner for his new role battling with members of congress? plus, one year later some answers. what mistakes the pilots made in the final minutes before this fatal crash. mistakes that might have saved everyone on board. the season's freshest flavors, now at olive garden. dive into our new pappardelle pescatore with the best of the bay. prepared from scratch daily and always served with unlimited salad and breadsticks. taste the flavors