talking to people like sasha eisenberg, there is a sense that there is a huge gap.nd when you get on stage, and i have been to places like pennsylvania and north carolina, and you talk about offices, contacts, every indices we have shows that the democrats are better organized than the republicans. thatthat offset enthusiasm you mentioned earlier? charlie: you talked about endorsements. what about surrogates? can barack obama bring out the african-american vote? can michelle obama bring out the african-american vote, which is lagging behind in comparison with president obama? al: i don't think they will get the african-american turnout that obama got in 2012, but i think it means in the closing days, both the president and the first lady can help with that. in north carolina, blacks have really liked behind. -- have really lagged behind. they had a big day esterday, so they are close to where they were four years ago, but not yet, and a lot of that was obama. obama was in north carolina yesterday. they are doing a lot of robocalls to every household. michelle and th

sasha eisenberg, who works for bloomberg view -- bloomberg politics, has followed this and written aook about it. he believes that if any state is 45-45, she wins 37-44, because of that infrastructure, technological advantage. we will see if that is the case. charlie: is it different to what obama had? what obamaimilar to had. she is as good as what obama had because she has hired all the obama people. she invested in that early, and trump is lagging behind romney. charlie: but there is some indication that trump has gone heavy on data in the last four or five months. thethey use a group that mercer's support. again, this is not my area of expertise. talking to people like such a eisenberg, there is a sense that there is a huge gap. and when you get on stage, and i have been to places like pennsylvania and north carolina, and you talk about offices, contacts, every indices we have shows that the democrats are better organized than the republicans. does that upset that enthusiasm that you mentioned earlier? charlie: you talked about endorsements. what about surrogates? can barack obam

john: josh green and sasha eisenberg wrote a piece in bloomberg businessweek about operations.mp officials saying you had three separate voter suppression strategies to the campaign was pursuing. it went into something about what they were. for a lot of people, it is a very disturbing prospect. what you have to say about that? >> one a few things happen -- one of two things happened. the either misspoke, or they fundamentally have no clue what mr. trump is doing with the campaign. we are eight days out and mr. trump is going into communities. he spoke out in length in michigan on redoing urban centers and helping the black community in a way the democrats haven't cycle after cycle. mr. trump will be president for all americans and he made this a big cornerstone of his campaign. he got a lot of praise for it. it is remarkable a republican working this hard to bring in different groups. and so, any of that type of language -- someone was just way off with their description of what is going on. you have certain aspects of contrast messaging where you say here is why secretary clin

still think there's a huge-- again, this is not my area of expertise but talking to people like sasha eisenberg there is a sense there say huge gap. and when you go in states, and have i been to places like pennsylvania and northed carolina, and you talk about, you know, offices, contacts, every indices we have shows that the democrats are better organized thanked the republicans. and does that offset that enthusiasm, yeah, that you mentioned earlier. >> rose: you talked about endorsements. what about surrogates, can barack obama bring out the african-american vote. can michelle obama bring out the african paryn vote which is lagging behind in terms of comparison with president obama. >> i don't think they'll get the african-american turnout that obama got in 2012. but i think in these closing days, that both the president and the first lady can help with that. in north carolina, blacks have really lagged behind. they had a big day yesterday. so they're close to where they were, four years ago, but not there yet. and a lot of that is obama. obama was in north carolina yesterday. they're doing a

. >>> our talented colleagues, josh green, and sasha eisenberg have another incredible story about howictions. you can read that story right now on bloombergpolitics.com. john and i will be back here tomorrow, same bad time, same bad channel. sayonara. >> "hardball with chris matthews" is next. >>> face to face, let's play "hardball." >>> good evening. i'm chris matthews back in washington. over the last 36 hours, president barack obama has clearly displayed his ability to put aside his animosity to president-elect donald trump. he's showcasing to the country and to the world that a core peace of democracy is a peaceful transfer of power. president obama joined with his successor for a photo op in the oval office. a white house spokesman told nbc news the president ste

bloomberggue from politics, sasha eisenberg. we will get to some of that later.e disparity within individual states of polls we all think are pretty reputable. expand how that happens. pollsters are having a hard time making sense out of all of these. there are a lot more polls happening at this time and the polling industry things all of the people paying for those polls, but what has happened in this cycle more than other cycles, and contradict me if you disagree, but there has been inflation and deflation in the electorate. once you pass our likely voter stream, you are in our poll. that seems static. in reality, we have had so many shocking with that would normally be a watershed in an election where people go, that changes my vote or, i am fed up and not going to vote, or, my vote is not really matter. ann: finding it and thinking it is contained is tricky. you are involved in a thing called "vogue master. -- vote caster." money ihis is a startup am involved in that has been tracking turnout in person across eight states today and gets to the, what anna is t

. -- sasha eisenberg. how does it play out in the elect oral college?ad of three points for a while now and it shows that even in this comey news, it hasn't drawn from closer. we are back where we have always been. she has a structural advantage in the battleground states that forces donald trump to have an inrwhelming suite -- sweep states where he has never had a solid lead. bothis what makes campaigns seeing her in the drivers seat. jon: take us through the staples in this sense. if you are advising donald trump where what is a scenario you think he might actually have a chance of carrying it? >> florida is essential for any map. they are fairly confident about ohio. the early vote numbers out of nevada, where two weeks ago the campaign was very optimistic, show an electorate that is heavy voters andtime latinos and i think there is reason for them to be very pessimistic about nevada and colorado based on the early mail ballots. that is one of the changes. there is less reliance on public polling or private polling and far more in some of these state