. >> host: here is a question that mentions the saslow.how was your own experience would you explain the fact south africa hasn't been able to avoid the pitfalls that explained half a century before the resolution of that struggle? >> guest: could you do something for me? can you say what you think that question is asking because i could talk about south africa all day long. help me out here? >> host: how has your own experience in south africa would you say that they have fallen into the trap essentially that they could possibly get through? >> guest: >> host: an ideal resolution of the struggle. >> guest: i would say to this person two things. first half of the book really deals with the question and i'm just being honest with you is heavily loaded and marketed and when i have intellectual time, i'm writing a novel for my next book. i don't remember everything [inaudible] that's what i will say is there was a moment in 1992 when we had an opportunity. there were committees and we were studying this heading the chief of staff wanted a per