and we don't know the exact motivation of these shooters and what they did, these snipers, sassin. i know abdomen tie cops have been fostered by political leaders, by many in the media in positions of influence, supported by things like president obama, hillary clinton, bernie sandsers, the black lives matter, the hands up don't that sponsored an for example that some within that area will take advantage of it. and peaceful protesters, they're not the issue. it's their right and i support it. but this was the worst of all kinds because with willful disregard, they targeted cops as rod wheeler said and possibly could have injured so much more. >> david, we had one witness on the phone earlier. he had mentioned how he felt it must have initially been awkward. he was discussing with this which is friend before everything happened. for the first to be there and do their job and he said when they started happening, he said none of them hesitated. the they all immediately ran in to duty, to their the civilians route of namp but, yep, you know any, you're a harm's way more than ever. >> h