we also hope that the government's top three sather about this and therefore if we highlight the issues that we have seen that something can be done and of course then the reports are public so for me in many ways what we do is mandate holders is to highlight some of the issues make recommendations so that civil society academics and other people within the country as well as the government can look at these and take them forward a couple of specific questions that i would like to ask you well first of all this talk in russia. religious classes or through ostrich genitives will be introduced in schools what's your attitude to introducing classes in religion in society. wouldn't that be would there be discrimination what those small or small religions my understanding this is what i was talking about the basic basic education in religious culture and secular ethics is that the it's not just my opinion the opinion of a number of people who are academics in this country and also government institutions in government bodies that animists bodies have concerns about this for one thing it give

. >> that is extraordinary, because even morley sather talked about it, did an interview with him manyyears ago and talked to him in a very candid matter about depression, how he kept it inside for so long, and how mike wallace actually considered killing himself. did you all share kind of those parallels of experience together in a way that you felt perhaps other people wouldn't be able to understand or connect with you on? >> well, we shared it usually each summer at martha's vineyard, where four of us, art buck wold, mike wallace, bill sty ron and i had the same experiences. yes, it got so tough for mike, as it did for all four of us, that at some deep, deep point, and in our battle we did think about it. mike always reminded me that, really, it's one decision in life, that if you were to take it, you can't reconsider. and also that if you got the right medication, the right physicians, that most of us who deal with it could come out with it. and all four of us did. >> and through it all, you know, how does one try to kind of wrap their arms around the notion of, this is a man who h