the saudis have done that.hy the saudi has not delivered despite having spent hundreds of millions of dollars or month they have not delivered greater lethal weapons to these groups. and maybe this is because the united states has not allowed it. i don't think the u.s. has to provide the lethal weapons, the saudis are happy to do that, but why is the u.s. against providing more lethal weapons to these groups, i don't understand. >> explain the saudi interest in the region. >> well, the saudi region is complex. number one, syria being ally with iranian government gives iranians great leverage in the region. the saudis want to break that leverage, it has not to do with syria, per se. that is the primary goal of the saudi activities in syria and iraq and other parts of the middle east. the second issue here is saudi government, the monarchy has a goal or interest in surviving, and having successful arab spring will threaten its survival. really, one of the things that could be considered an arab spring spoiler the

>> the saudi point of view is they cannot trust this and they would be skeptical. there is the opportunity to bring them on board and to make sure that any progress on a deal with iran, by engagement, by talking to them, by being open the fears ofthink a absence of a western guarantee are exaggerated, but this is patently understandable given the sequence of events that happened recently that they should be in this position. >> the war on drugs is being lost. .hat is the claim by kofi annan the former u.n. secretary- the al has stated that legalization of drugs should be replaced i social programs. peru, with the dubious honor of now being the largest producer of coca leaves. the drug is in growing demand in europe and the peruvian government has a radical approach to tackle the drug trade. is this the time for change? lloyd roberts. airport and another european is found trying to smuggle cocaine. this is worth half a million pounds in london. he faces 15 years in jail and the drugs will be destroyed. but there is plenty more where it came from. 500 miles northeast

last month saudi intelligence chief told diplomats that saudi arabia would shift away from the u.s. over its relationship with iran and handling of the syrian crisis. the senior editor for the "washington post" and joins us in the studio. and thomas lit man joins us from washington, d.c. scholar of the middle east constitution, and author of saudi arabia on the edge. uncertain future of the ally. the u.s. does not seem to win for trying. they manage to come up with some sort of solution in syria to get rid of chemical weapons, and prince turkey slams them about that in the interview. they also managed to make strides with iran's new leader, rue than an rouhani, but they're not happy about it. no matter what the united states does, saudi arabia is not going to be happen, and was hash about the u.s. and president obama. >> i think many people in the region share his feelings. i think saudi arabia, which has been a key u.s.ially has been extremely frustrated by the fact that the president said if they use chemical weapons it would be a red line and he would use force. think used chemic

in some ways, the saudi concern is different.that driven by a fear deals that we do with iran are basically a precursor to doing a large deal with iran, not just on the nuclear issue, but recognizing iran as having a regional role. saudi concern is akin to peering, that we will begin to treat the iranians as we did in the shaw's time, a major partner in the region. it is fair to say that is not something that is around the corner. i have a hard time envisioning that we would do any deals that comes at the saudi's expense, so what are the concerns that the saudi's and israelis have about the first that deal, and how might they be addressed? one concern they raise is that the leverage we have on iran will erode and when we have not negotiated a final deal. the conference of deal that

saudi arabia is a peculiar situation when you know the u.s. government first had its relations with under franklin roosevelt one of the great promoters of human rights i mean there are certain realities that any american president have to deal with and one of them is saudi arabia we're not going to change the government we hope that out of evolutionary change out of pressure from the outside saudi arabia will change i mean there now at least the women in saudi arabia are not define the government by trying to show that they can drive cars alone so these things will happen gradually but meantime the most important issue is bringing peace to syria to iran and to the israel palestinian conflict isn't that what american president should be focusing on that's the most crucial issues that face us as a country well kelly you know all these great values are used in a very specific way a very discriminating way you if it's a friend you overlook all of their. deficiencies that if you don't get in line then you get the the worst of the worst i mean every

saudi arabia is is a peculiar situation when you know the u.s. government first had its relations with an under franklin roosevelt one of the great promoters of human rights i mean there are certain realities that any american president have to deal with and one of them is sort of arabia we're not going to change the government we hope that out of evolution out of change out of pressure from the outside saudi arabia will change i mean there now at least the women in saudi arabia are not define the government by trying to show that they can drive cars alone so these things will happen gradually but meantime the most important issue is bringing peace to syria to iran and to the israel palestinian conflict isn't that what american president should be focusing on that's the most crucial issues that face us as a country well kelly you know all these great values are used and in a very specific way a very discriminating way you if it's a friend you overlook all of their. deficiencies that if you don't get in line then you get the the worst of the worst

saudi arabia has been traveling jihad these into syria long time before has been into the picture saudi arabia has suppressed of operating in bahrain it has funded the brigades who today launched the strike the bomb attack on the iranian embassy have also launched attacks on israel in the same vein around has been on the ground in syria what. anyone would would realize if you were a russian weapons and who's been nonstop showing there are so saudi arabia the most interesting thing to try and. clear that it's a proxy war you gentlemen gentlemen let me jump in here gentlemen let me go jump in ok we're here talking over each other ok joe what we just heard there talking over each other is this is turned into a proxy war it's very patently clear here these jihadi that are being funneled into through saudi arabia with turkey's help amazing they're going to really regret this one day if not already been funneling all these people foreign nationals into a civil war that everyone wanted to call a revolution and now it's just a proxy war which is taking the lives of a lot of people that do not l

bahrain qatar saudi. and soon are in charge and largely at the moment i find myself largely opposed to the perceived shia you corrected that but not so much syria but i think that's the perception of the average american and more shia iran. could it be that you know for example the way pre world war two or during world war two the u.s. was of ally with the soviet union and then after world war two with that back kind of relationship is about the look we're seeing saudi arabia and qatar both you know you're competing with each other to build pipelines through syria and. you know intervening in a civil war and iran is kind of playing the good neighbor right now it seems so far . misconstruing i think it's very complex i don't know if anyone frankly is being a particularly good neighbor right now i think that foreign elements in iran included that. in many ways helped prolong this war. now i think the way to stop it of course is through a diplomatic process in which all of these parties have to be at the tab

saudi relationship is not a point of divorce there's a lot of tensions the saudis have for being far more vocal than they usually are disagreeing with the united states you know you could fighting for a position on the u.n. security council and then turning down the position is a clear demonstration effect of how saudi arabia is upset but these two powers on a point of divorce atoll and i think that yes there are problems that the united states has dealing with a regime of this sort but let's not forget the relationships that the united states has throughout the region and various areas where it has been pushing so for example tunisia has been a successful looks to be a successful version of transition of nonviolent transition in the united states does seem to at least be backing that unity regime. as it steps forward with this transition process and it's the same with the european union as well we're. going to talk about iraq afghanistan libya i my goodness i mean tony. jones in going to jump in what we could see in tunisia is it exactly exactly pete. here run off what happened in e

saudi relationship is not a point of divorce there's a lot of tensions the saudis have for being far more vocal than they usually are disagreeing with the united states you know you could fighting for a position on the u.n. security council and then turning down the position is a clear demonstration effect of how saudi arabia is upset but these two powers on a point of divorce atoll and i think that yes there are problems that the united states has dealing with a regime of this sort but let's not forget all the relationships that the united states has throughout the region and various areas where it has been pushing so for example tunisia has been a successful or looks to be a successful version of transition of nonviolent transition in the united states does seem to at least be backing that unity regime. as it steps forward with this transition process and it's the same with the european union as well we're. going to talk about iraq afghanistan libya i my goodness i mean tony. go ahead jump in going to jump in what we could see in tunisia is it exactly exactly i repeat. of what happ

in saudi arabia. it depend on each country, for example, real estate right now used to be a tabu a few years ago in the united states. and saudi arabia, it's really-- it's been a booming industry the last four, five years. >> rose: in saudi arabia. >> exactly, yes. although, the united states right now, we are beginning to see a plateauing of real estate, and that is going up. so it depends on whichq<(ááv -- >> how about choina then? >> china itself is a continent, 1.3 billion people and growing. it's a very much controlled economy. it's a very much-- it's a controlled economy. although, its economy is a capitalistic economy, the country is very much a commystic and centralized. we have to see if these two cooshz survive for a long time-- long term. >> rose: and latin america? >> they're moving, they're moving slowly. >> rose: mexico? >> mexico right now isy a star in latin america. but mexico with the oil based industry that they have right now over there, it's really-- it's stronger terms than other

saudi arabia qatar. are both sunni control even though saudi arabia in particular has a large population almost a majority it is not going to play any percent in saudi arabia has a majority. in the way in the west these. issues in the region are so often characterized as shia sunni and we saw that played out in. simple for us. as we went through iraq in particular which neighborhoods is. what is the what is the shia sunni dynamic to what extent is iran being shit nation play into that how does that affect politics in iran and in that region do you see these things changing it's change for the worse right. the shia sunni thing has always been there and it's you know it's always been in the background most of the time and it's not necessarily at all as pronounced as it is right now what i think is happening is that there are very significant geo political rivalries taking place in the region in which again utilizing a sick card playing that card has a far greater resonance far greater impact on the ground.

saudi relationship is not a point of divorce there's a lot of tensions the saudis have for being far more vocal than they usually are disagreeing with the united states you know you could fighting for a position on the u.n. security council and then turning down the position. is a clear demonstration effect of how saudi arabia is upset but these two powers on a point of divorce atoll and i think that yes there are problems that the united states has dealing with the regime of this sort but let's not forget the relationships that the united states has throughout the region and various areas where it has been pushing so for example tunisia has been a successful looks to be a successful version of transition of nonviolent transition in the united states does seem to at least be backing that unity regime. as it steps forward with this transition process and it's the same with the european union as well we're. going to talk about iraq afghanistan libya i my goodness i mean turning on the different hey go ahead go ahead jump in if i could jump in we could see in tunisia is it exactly exact

saudi arabia has been traveling jihad these into syria long time before has been into the picture saudi arabia has suppressed the operating in bahrain it has funded the brigades who today launched the bomb attack on the iranian embassy have also launched attacks on israel some of the same even around has been on the ground in syria what. anyone would would realize if you were a russian weapons and who's been nonstop showing there are so saudi arabia the most interesting thing to try and. clear that it's a proxy war you gentlemen gentlemen let me jump in here gentlemen let me go jump in ok here talking over each other ok joe what we just heard there talking over each other is this is turned into a proxy war it's very patently clear here these jihadi that are being funneled in through saudi arabia with turkey's help amazing they're going to really regret this one day if not already been funneling all these people foreign nationals into a civil war that everyone wanted to call a revolution and now it's just a proxy war which is taking the lives a lot of people that do not like these foreig

finger at saudi arabia . america wants iran out of the peace negotiations but really the country that has this war that is the core the cause of the instability is saudi arabia and it's absurd that saudi arabia is our ally in this region and that's the irony of ironies michael it's interesting that we met saudi arabia has been mentioned because we had secretary kerry say that the united states and saudi arabia agree on the ultimate goal he doesn't like to say exactly what the ultimate goal is anymore because i think washington's been a little bit red faced about assad must go because it's not going to happen but we do see two different trajectories here we have the american one which seems very blurry to me and saudi arabia is just going to do whatever it damn well pleases and it's going to continue fueling the war irrespective of the suffering of the people of syria or the impact on the region because it's only looking at iran well it is true that since august twenty third the gassing of. the americans chose

i think the only what we need to say is that the saudi regime is actually in trouble the saudi regime isn't going to have the sort of money that it has now to stop. stop a populist uprising taking place so i think that means that what we need to do was keep an eye a close eye on what's happening in saudi politics there is still a popular movement going on there now to go directly to your question i think that no i don't think the divisions and understanding of the different types of islam of fully understood in washington but i think it's something that over the last ten years is becoming better understood i think the way it's seen here is you know saudi arabia and iran have tensions with each other and there's a global sort of a global and regional game going on ok let's change gears and talk about syria here and again you know we it's move on to syria how would you how does syria fit in to what's been happening in the greater middle east last two years in exception or is something very different and some people would say that it is this is a block to western influence a penetration

become a major energy rival to saudi. he says saudi needs to diversify out of oil. into what? i'll get his thoughts on that and a lot more. you're watching the "closing bell" on cnbc. 0 >>> welcome back. my next guest is one of the most recognizable billionaire investors in the world. he has big stakes in citigroup, apple, news corp., twitter and others. he also has the pulse on oil markets as a member of the saudi royal family. it's a pleasure to welcome back to the "closing bell," his royal highness prince alwaleed bin talal. thank you for joining us. good to see us. you're back at the new york stock exchange. did you go to some of the posts and see some of your investments? >> yes, city shgs citibank location and twitter. >> i want to talk about your investments. people follow you in terms of how you're allocating capital. let me first zero in on some of the news of the day because the sunday "times" reporting saudi is teaming up for israel for a possible talk on iran. saudi arabia denying such an alliance. is there concern about what's happening in terms of iran and that s

secretary of state john kerry is in saudi arabia tonight. he began a 9-day middle east trip - first stop egypt. >> syria's main opposition group is refusing to attend a second round of peace talks in geneva unless certain conditions are met. rebel leaders in the eastern democratic republic of congo are calling for fighters to lay down their guns. tonight we look at so-called blue zones - places where people live longer and healthier lives. [ ♪ music ] >> tonight secretary of state john kerry is in saudi arabia trying to smooth over tensions. his 9-day trip to the middle east began with a quick stop in egypt. it's the highest level visit there since the military removed president mohamed morsi in july. during kerry's 6-hour stay he called for the violence to end and the country to move towards full democracy. we have the latest from washington. >> the first stop made on the trip to the middle east was not to saudi arabia, but instead to cairo egypt. it's the first and highest ranking visit by a u.s. official since july 3rdrd. that's the day t

many said they were gaoled in saudi arabia.heir fingerprints taken, and that once out they won't be able to return. >> translation: we were about 3,000 in gaol. they gave us nothing - no water, no food. three people died in gaol. that's not fair. >> these are mostly unskilled labourers. they have almost no chance to find work as well. many of the workers who were deported spent most of their lives in saudi arabia. now, they feel abandoned and betrayed. >> so they picked human rights - the way they treat these people is inhumane. as they cross the border to yemen, they complain how they were treated. it is an ordeal. >> there are half a million workers in saudi arabia. they face a tough choice. staying illegally in saudi arabia, returning to their country while the future looks bleak. >> we tried to get a comment from the yemeni government about accusations that saudi arabia is mistreating illegal workers, but the officials we contacted declined. they called it a sensitive issue. we know the king dom contributes hundreds of mill

the saudis would like the u.s. to launch military action, but they won't do it themselves. >> the gulf nations have seen the united states as guarantors of their security both during the cold war and after. the fact remains the united states has global interest and the most important dr. is stablity. it's not seeing the united states choose sides and some of these national and sectarian challenges in the region. for the united states to retain it's yesterdayiblity and fo cre. what is different between the o saudis and the bush administration? >> first the world has change the. the world has largely changed due to the facts that we are coming off the u.s. interventions in afghanistan and iraq. and we can't down play the arab spring and the u.s. must not focus on the government in the rylegion, but theleregion, but e region. the bush administration was singsingly focusedded on focusee regime. and when saudi arabia was more important to the us in the after math of al qaeda than it nowers the american people and that i

precisely about saudi arabia why dealing saudi arabia to this case. because the minute and or the proxies of first saudi arabia are now existed in the descent between damascus and homes and they are spreading all these kyra's on terrorism. around the cities of homes and damascus most of the car bombs are coming from this areas and when hezbollah and syrian army decided to crush the rebellion in this area the saudis. wanted to send a message hysterical very hysterical message to iran we have to remember of the actions of saudi ever in the first few weeks they refused the membership of the un security council and then they said that they are going to they gonna work to foil the negotiations the peace negotiations in geneva for peace in syria and they're also trying to block any deal between the west and iran and recently the reports are saying that saw the idea of is going to buy a bomb from pakistan a nuclear bomb from pakistan if a deal has been reached between the p five plus one and iran so this hysterical policies by saudi arabia is reflecting the.

the saudi are on thin ice.hey have very little public fort support -- public support in western urine. western europe. thank you for talking to us and taking on these issues today. >> egyptian president morsi appeared in public for the first time since being forced from office. he is in court being charged with the deaths of protestors outside of the presidential palace last year. >> the supporters of the deposed president mohammad morsi are outside of the police academy where the former leader is on trial. they say he was forced from office illegally and they demand that the charges against him be dropped. mohamed morsi is charged with incitiing the deaths of others. forces are on the streets of cairo to ensure that the trial goes ahead. public opinion about it is polarized. god will be on our side. the court will issue a verdict that will be for the sake of egypt and the egyptians to move forward. morsi was not fair at all. >> this trial has nothing to do with being fair or unfair. the man was a president. he

from the saudi government have always maintained covered. with television. but we believe that these lawmakers public over iran and saudi arabia are two major regional powers. so with a watch we know saudi arabia the role it can play in the muslim world and. region. and how much we have in common we were doing our best to use this opportunity to promote security stability and progress in the region. there might be people in some countries that maintain contact or would like to establish contact with these rarely regime. there might also be people inside saudi arabia who are engaged in a dialogue with tel aviv. but we're convinced that the saudi policy towards these rather regime does not imply forging an alliance against the islamic republic of iran. even on the contrary i think there has always been solid potential to build an effective strategic alliance between iran and saudi arabia. in order to tackle regional and international problems. you know many say that israel is isolated in a region and it doesn't really have any partners in the

saudi royals have been rattled by the events in their region and beyond.of discontent that launched arab spring is not absent in their own population. they fear rehabilitation of iran, they also know the united states might soon find itself independent of middle eastern oil. given these strains, it is possible that saudi arabia worries that a seat on the u.n. security council might constrain it from having maximum freedom of action or the position could shine a light on some of its more unorthodoxed activities or that it could force riyadh to vote on issues it would rather punt on or more or that they spent years lobbying for the seat. whatever the reason, let's concede that saudi arabia is angry with the united states. but are we sure that that is a sign that washington is doing something wrong? for more, go to cnn.com/fareed where you can read my "time" magazine column this week. up next, my conversation with new york mayor michael new york mayor michael bloomberg. now i'm a manager.-time, my employer matches my charitable giving. really. i get bonuses e

more than 20% of those picked up were saudi's.what kind of progress have we made in making sure the outside influences, which have played an oversized role in the radicalization of the afghans, do you know what kind of handle we have on it, whether we have any agreements with the saudi's, that they will not continue to send the outside agitators? there are so many things up in the air. i have heard it described as playing whack a mole. we have to field a tremendous economic burden with our troops, but they can come in with a fairly low level of economic i to the and they do not have to fly under their own flag. i wonder where this puts us and where we might go with this in the future. i would appreciate if you would give me an answer. thank you. guest: thank you and i will do my best. at the outset, that will always be an issue. we are seeing this now in syria, throughout the muslim world, where there is an opportunity for younger fighters to take part in what they feel is a worthy cause. you are seeing foreign fighters involved i

relations with qatar kuwait and saudi arabia are problematic. even though there are differences between us. and then there is me. there have been some developments in bahrain you know fact is relations with. our embassy is open. we are in constant dialogue with bahrain. we offer a different plans and programs to bahrain in order to help solve the conflicts between the authorities in the opposition there. we have always said that we are ready to help because we want to see stability in the country. that can be achieved through national dialogue. so i would never say that iran is isolated from its neighbors they're part of them all down the country in some areas our relations with them. good as it was a chip. your thought there just take a short break. after the break we'll come back with you downstairs at. foreign minister jose and i made up a lot young to talk about the future of war torn syria. but all told you my language or what i will only react to situations i have read the reports of the pollution and no i will leave them to the state depa

why is it shipping large quantities of arms to countries like saudi arabia. well the front of the mysteries of the most it did the guidelines stated that the accounts of the moment came into force in the year two thousand and one may stipulate east germany is only in principle at least allowed to export weapons to the eu and to its tomato comments. the woodland from this latest report is the gemini is in fact as sending fifty nine percent of its comes to a countries like saudi arabia to test if the policy countries that that is all a note according to the guidelines which again stipulate that jimmy connors expo to step up two nations is its own vital difference in security interests on a plane that's what the government argues that the country like saudi arabia's we see the government says it's a state of security and stability in the troubled region. not everybody agrees of course was told that the critic is one opposition force or another opposition voice saying she kind of magical time including behaves as if that has never been a matter of spring. she is

relations with saudi arabia appointing a former ambassador to saudi arabia inevitably compromises you you've got someone who is a cheerleader for the saudi arabian government on side and that's a huge problem but that isn't the only flora for example it was a secret public meeting between the committee some members of the committee and the representative systems who are by far and away the biggest supplier to the saudi arabian government from the u.k. side. the committee said they would have liked the evidence to be public b.h. said no we're not going to give you the surveillance of public so they hold a secret meeting that's just right of course the opinion of arms companies was taken into account here as the report was being prepared but what are any critical voices. yes there were a lot of critical voices campaign against arms trade amnesty international human rights watch all gave evidence home range of groups from bahrain human rights groups democracy groups from bahrain gave evidence because the report was also covering bahrain as well. and fortunately with saudi arabia it's ver

and saudi arabia. kerry is continuing his tour of the middle east. it comes after plains of holy spirit of syria, iran and the middle east peace process. >> the saudis are the senior player, if you will, within the arab world with egypt. egypt is in more of a transition, so saudi arabia's role is that much more important. the saudi's ability to influence a lot of things that we also care about, and we work together on. we're working together particularly on middle east peace process on syria, on egypt, and on iran. >> saudi arabia's foreign minister told kerry that they have no problem with the united states, and the two countries are busy dealing with the issues that divide them. >>> secretary of state kerry talked to saudi arabia about iran's nuclear program as well. many took to the streets in protest while that discussion was taking place. >>> the pakistani government said it will review every aspect of its relationship with the united states. the move comes after mehsud, the leader of the pakistani taliban, was killed in a drone strike on friday

this is something the saudi arabias are not used to. they have been framing foreign policy over the last 10 years in a way where they'd like to get closer to the americans. the iranians are going to emirate saying, "do you know what, part of the deal you have to recognise our regional role." the biggest fear is if the americans tell the iranians, "we are pleased with the development, you know what we accept your presence in every dealing," particularly when it comes to syria. this will be a nightmare. i expect tough maection from the gc 3 countries. >> we'll speak to throughout the day. al jazeera's correspondent joining us. check out the website for more news on the iranian deal, aljazeera.com. >> jpmorgan playing a hefty price for its part in the financial collapse, how the $13 billion can help some home owners. a small city makes a big promise, kids that graduate high school get free tuition: i'm ali velshi, that is "real money." of the show so join the conversation with the @aj real money. on

saudi arabia that goes back to the early one nine hundred seventy s. when the gold window was closed and you had the beginning of the petro dollar but now that is are threatened because of other activities in the middle east because now you've got the collapse of the syrian invasion to do in part the no vote from the u.k. you know the house of parliament and this detente with iran the saudi arabia and so you're so you see that the gold price to go up in what you're saying is that the playboy states in the gulf as you described them they want to get more liquid and gold to recast this gold because they are now looking toward a post saudi us by bilateral relationship it's a huge change in that relationship i'm speculating that this is the case but this to me seems logical if we take this a bit further then we can get a little bit more frightened perhaps about the implications ok let's do it because go for it because. if they are looking to use the gold for transactions then they are moving away from the dependence on the petro dollar. so they're becoming

so you saying here that again another element unreported or on recognize is that saudi arabia and we were in the region doing a film not too long ago and the word on the street on the arab street was that saudi arabia was overstating their reserves by quite a bit as much as forty percent and of course i would set up the iran and then you see why they were ganging up with israel to go and raid a rat and then around play the gold card right we got to continue this next time because right a frickin time but remember the point there was that the people's bank of china will no longer be buying u.s. treasuries stated over the second half all out war. if you're thinking about an alcoholic drink associated with russia it's probably not going to be one that springs into your head but they've been making it here on the black sea coast for more than two thousand kids and there's an industry which really can compete with the best the rest of the world has to offer i've come to meet some of the people growing the greats and to see if i can find out the secret to the perfect. this is the place tha

saudi arabia that goes back to the early one nine hundred seventy s. when the gold window was closed and you had the beginning of the petro dollar but now that is are threatened because of other activities in the middle east because now you've got the collapse of the syrian invasion did you in part the no vote from the u.k. now the parliament and this detente with iran the saudi arabia and so you're so you see that the gold price the gold in it what you're saying is that the playboy states in the gulf as you described them they want to get more liquid and gold to recast this gold because they are now looking toward a post saudi us by bilateral relationship it's a huge change in that relationship i'm speculating that this is the case but this to me seems logical if we take this a bit further then we can get a little bit more frightened perhaps about the implications ok let's do it because go for it because. if they are looking to use the gold for transactions then they are moving away from the dependence on the petro dollar. so they're becoming more asi

only the saudis and the israelis would be to blame and israelis would of course be. refitting retaliatory attacks from b. iranians that would mobilize the whole middle east especially people on the streets in support of iran they would isolate israel israelis would be the losing side because we succeed in destroying a couple of buildings they would be hit far harder by the iranian political implications for israel. israel would be devastating so i don't think that people really believe that a strike is anywhere is imminent or there is even any realistic. scenario where the israelis would carry out an attack after all the americans with all their firepower. failed in their attempt to bring about syria because world public opinion and american public opinion simply would not accept it so you're skeptical that this report is a paid in the sunday newspapers today in britain. i think so i'm skeptical i think that there's a rally in the saudis it's clear that they're cooperating at many levels to put. pressure on the five plus one to work against a meaningful agreement we

what are the saudi concerns they have of the deal?i would say this is an area where saudi and israeli interests are converging. involved in a discussion with the senior saudi, and i asked him a question. the israelis are pretty vocal. they haven't been saying too much on this possible deal, and the answer was, why do we need to? they are doing a good job, so we are happy to let them speak out against it. concerns. in some ways it is different from israeli concerns. we are driven by a fear that are awe do with iran precursor to a larger deal. recognizing a ron in terms of having a regional role -- terms of having a regional deal. say it is's fair to not just around the corner. it is fair to say i have a hard time envisioning we are going to do any deal at this point. what are the concerns saudis and israelis have, and how might they be addressed? is the regime will for a. the sanctions are going to erode at a time when we haven't negotiated a final deal and a comprehensive deal is called for within oneuded year's time. certainly the ad