it's a challenge partly between iran and saudi arabia that's been that's one of the six wars in syria that's being fought to the last syria so you have a scenario where iran is threatened by the rise of saudi arabia as a potential regional power allied with the united states the saudis are very opposed to iran even more than israel in some ways so that brings a new alliance between iraq and. syria and iran and syria you know there's a lot of power players here we keep hearing about isis the islamic republic of iraq and are serious can you call us understand exactly what this group is i know that they're calling for a state in iraq and syria what would that mean and also do you think that it's almost being overblown in terms of the threat of just ice is being used to kind of lump in all the militants there absolutely to take the second question first this is definitely not just about isis isis is a very violent very extreme sunni militia and their version of what and islamic state would look like is pretty terrifying it's their version of sharia law is even beyond what the saudi extrem

the head of saudi intelligence and they went over to him and they say. obama won't raise enough money to give enough weapons to these guys in syria right and your. government want to do it so you hustle a few tens or hundreds of millions of dollars out of some rich saudis and handed off to the guys. bandar did that yeah the guys turned out to be isis who is now in iraq alive and when bush found out irwin obama's father out about it he had a personal conversation with the king and two weeks later bandar was fired now i don't know if you could say there's a causal link that if mccain and that make this trip in this relationship and causes this transaction was any allegation that i don't know for certain my point is that i don't know if it's that level but again i want to make sure we're learning a lesson from this continue to continue to find ourselves on different sides of the hour because we don't understand the intricacies of what's going on over there i mean look at saddam say we don't either side with him. and one point we supported him they were agai

syria israel and saudi arabia all have a huge stake in the power play unfolding in the middle east and every wrong move could set off a dangerous chain reaction or earlier i spoke to phyllis bennis middle east expert at the institute for policy studies i first asked her why iraq and syria are so intertwined when it comes to what's happening on the ground. when i think it has to do with a couple of things certainly there's the shia connection these are both predominantly shia country. countries and the governments are shia oriented they share enemies who how they define enemies but it's also a question of the political positioning of the various countries you know you have a situation where syria has positioned itself historically although it didn't really play the role that positioned itself as the arc of resistance as the resistance force in the region it didn't really play that role that united with the united states to go to war against iraq it attacked the palestinians you know so there's a terrible history of syria in collaboration with imperialist forces in the region but it has

used to do includes telling the saudi's until they stop allowing saudi weapons, which are ultimately.s. weapons sold to the saudi's, we are not going to sell them anymore weapons. the u.s. has announced two years ago a $60 billion arms sale to saudi arabia, the largest single arms sale in history. it is not going to be easy for any government, president obama or any future in administration, to tackle that when the producers of those weapons in this country and their ceos make such a killing on those kinds of sales. >> it reminds me of the iran-iraq war. u.s. supporting both sides. kerry there in iraq? he was just in egypt where he also guaranteed the resumption of more military aid to egypt -- >> and jordan, the same thing. this is a huge problem that the u.s. is trying to buy the loyalty of air rulers by promising the more and more arms, despite any human rights violations in egypt which we have been hearing about the outrageous sentencing of the al jazeera journalists for seven to 10 years of peace for doing their job with no evidence provided. not a word was said while kerry was

saudi arabia says malaki's policies are responsible for the cries. malaki says that saudi arabia and the gulf states support terrorists. there's no denying saudi arabia and gulf states -- they don't support isis. it is an enemy and also of most regimes in the arab word. the big point to highlight here is we are witnesses a new arab cold war, really similar to the one that existed in the 1950's and 1960's. we are also witnesses links between the iraq crisis and the occurian crisis, and you have here not only internal struggles for power, but also regional wars by performies taking place in syria, iraq and lebanon, bahrain and other places. >> iran, of course, we heard john kerry say the u.s. is willing to work with iran on this iraq crisis. how does iran help here? the u.s. are not happy with the shia led government and al-malaki government. could they convince iran to convince al-malaki to step aside. >> you asked me earlier about what saudi arabia said. the reality is the reason why saudi arabia is very angry was al-malaki. they believe he is a clie

arabia i think that there have been attacks inside saudi arabia they were attributed to al-qaeda or similar organizations. and you know the they also are creating a situation of instability in the region. that. can come back and bite them in ways that they can't anticipate it's not just a soured relationship with iran which after all in the new government of rouhani is is reaching out to saudi arabia and the other go for arab states but. maliki you know you think of a rock is. as a natural rival in many respects to saudis if you look at the predominance of the shia of versus sunni rivalry oil sales and whatnot. by promoting isis or other kinds of groups like that in the region they're just fanning the flames of already. you know unstable relationships to see when we seeing a redrawing of the map in the greater middle east right now because you know we there are you know there is there there is israel there there are military interest there i mean i'm looking at it basically from up the western world but you know all . on the ground as you pointed out this is a sectarian. conflict fo

you know saudis and turks a.v. and financing those terror groups isn't that a form of intervention be the different form of intervention but it is still here still influence the development and the continuation of that conflict and have to very significant that extent is it fair to really criticize obama for non intervening when i would argue that he did everything he could by not intervening well i think you're right i mean there is tons of chris the united states and yet the united states has done so little to really help the syrian opposition the united states spent only a little bit more than two billion dollars on this struggle so far and when we compare that to what united states spent in afghanistan or iraq at the height of the fight there fight that is a less than one week spending but professor land is the big death toll is significant despite the fact that the united states hasn't invested all that money in syria you know and still how few around the civil war has so many people being killed i wonder if i

to begin cooperating with iran they are fearful that this will have a very bad effect on israel and saudi arabia others believe that counterterrorism is of the utmost importance and that iran can help the united states beat back isis and al qaeda in the region professor landis i would have to discuss that iranian angle a little bit later but before we go there there was the media's framing of the events in iraq it is very predictable they're sort of putting all the blame on molecule government he felt to build a functioning democracy here ali and they did the sunni's and i think we can admit that some of that criticism is valid but the question is could it be different person have done a better job is it fair to put all of the blame on al maliki and instead of looking somewhere else let's put it this way well a lot of this is domestic politics president obama is down the polls there are elections coming up midterm elections coming up and the republicans are very eager to hurt obama's reputation and to to ding the entire democratic party by saying that america has failed and american leade

arabia because it's no secret that saudi money was a crucial factor in the rise of the extremist can obama afford to take that on well he is beginning to tighten up i think the regulations on saturday in the gulf there is more intelligence sharing there's an attempt you know turkey in the last few months has started to restrict the free movement of both al qaida and isis across the border between syria and turkey and for a long time turkey made no discrimination between you know the moderate fighters and the radical fighters saudi arabia did and co wade and other gulf countries did not restrict fund transfers to these radical islamist groups and the united states didn't criminalize that either by the way no they did not you are absolutely right the united states dragged their feet they did declare early on in the uprising that there. was a terrorist organization and shout out to mr and others were terrorist organizations and prescribe them but it did very little to carry through with that and to force its allies to equally prescribe those groups there was a you have to remember there

we don't need anything from saudi arabia. acknowledge the god of heaven and earth and know that america stands strong. we have no leadership. saudi's wel the would take their oil at $30 a barrel. they can coat the good desert with it. we need to stand with god and god isedge the fact that the god of america. besides the religious aspect, let me address something. there is no doubt that the end of oil has been predicted. build a model of the perfect market, but construed up his government. why look around the world right now i see so much political interruption to oil. the iranianaq, cutback is politics. libya is a disaster. the nigerians are in the middle of one of their usual messes. venezuela should be producing 3.5 million barrels a day. you can talk all you want about resources being there and they are there, there is no doubt the supply would be there as well. when you inject politics into done, the as has been analysis of the color is not as simple as would be indicated. host: let me go back to this. is courtesy of the

our affection cannot be bought, saudi arabia. it's... really? more? more oil?ate? i mean, it does look tasty, but look, we have to be with iran. it's complicated with them, too, but they're saying some very sweet things these days, and i... oh, [bleeped]. hey, hey, what's up? oh, sorry, bibi netanyahu, i thought you were out of town for the jewish festival of guilt and passive aggression. this is not what it looks like, bubbie. it's just us plotting secret alliances with your two mortal enemies. i better get the [bleeped] out of here. [cheering and applause] >> jon: welcome back. my guest tonight is the chairman and the c.e.o. of starbucks. please welcome to the program howard schultz. sir. [applause] how are you? now, do you have a "daily show" rewards card with us? >> no. good idea, though. >> jon: you can get a cashews glazed with cranberries or whatever the hell you're selling. how are you? >> i'm great. today was a big day for starbucks. we had a big announcement. >> jon: tell me about the announcement. tell the people what you're doing over there. >> toda

i think saudi would be worse, right? and that's the temptation, because anybody who knows anything about oil knows that the biggest producer in the gulf is saudi. they're the big casino. if that government were to change for the worse, we'd have to make some adjustments. the question is, are those adjustments more or less difficult to try to fight a war to protect that regime? i suspect they are. so ashe yaes the hardest case, but -- asia is the hardest case, but still we need to do things to change the relationships. one of the things the americans should be doing is they should not be afraid to cut military forces in the region or move them when it makes strategic sense, when it makes strategic or political sense. the locals should get used to the idea that american military forces come and go o'an as-needed basis. they're not there to protect them for all time against all things. i have been puzzled why we don't take advantage of the difficulties we've had in okinawa finding a new base for the marine helicopter squadr

the saudi money says it didn't provide the funds. what prince bandar was able to do was maneuver and direct an enormous amount of private money from saudi private sources to these groups. >> getting -- just thinking about the fungibility of arms in that way, that you can, yeah, control who you give them to, but you can't then control what they do with them. >> or what they're sold -- >> or what they're sold for. who they're stolen by. who they get -- who ends up getting them once there's a defeat on the battlefield. anything that happens to them. once you supplied a gun, it doesn't go away. thinking about there being chemical weapons stockpiles in syria, the news today chemical weapons are out of syria, it's being treated as if it's a sidebar issue -- >> it's an enormous success to the white house. it's important to remember what would have happened had we attacked at that point and not had the leverage to get syria to give up 1,300 tons of chemical agents? those chemical agents would still be there, probably weaponized or on they wa

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the saudis are very worried about it. the government for instance has outlawed participating in a number of these terror groups because they are worried that eventually these saudis will come home and work at trying to topple their own government. it's not conventional in that sense. i think when it comes to u.s. involvement, one of the debates here is you have some people like ann maria slaughter who have been looking at a higher degree of interventionalism to try to save people. you've had 170,000 people killed inside syria. you're going to see a lot of bloodshed. allegedly 1,700 iraqi troops executed. you see horrors that you haven't seen in generations occurring in real time. maybe they occurred in africa and we took no action. people say we must take action now versus others who are saying the currents that are evolving and the battle between two islamist secretaislam ist sects are nothing for americans to interject themselves into. >> there's a map in the washington post that shows the territories that show isis's o

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i thing saudis are angry at us.hip is so weak between the saudi king and president obama that kerry is really going to try to smooth things over. but the important meetings in paris today were to try to move forward on stopping money from saudi arabia and the rest of the persian gulf and going to the insurgents in iraq and syria. i think i better save my voice for cheering usa. >> i know you'll be cheering them all afternoon. and we're going to head back out to katy in the thick of it in chicago. bring us up to date there. >> i am in a sea of red, white and blue and patriotism. but these horrible fellows have shown up. >> germany! >> what i want to know, this is a crowd, it's like 10,000, 20 thos people they say here. i want to know if these people have jobs. how do you get out of work to stand around for so long? do you have a job? are you supposed to be here or playing hooky? >> you are a doctor, right? you saved lives this morning. now you're enjoying yourself. >> are you working? >> part time. i am partly playin

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explain the interest of saudi arab arabia. >> saudi arabia has been fueling the sunni opposition.ve been at the heart of a sunni revolt. i they are a majority in the region, a large majority in the region. it's saudi arabia. they have generally speaking supported sunni groups that are pretty nasty. quite violent, quite radical. they famously supported the recursors to al qaeda in the 1980s. the saudis have always been part of the mix here. what you're witnessing is a saudi versus iran war that's been fought by these proxy groups. it's quite simple and strategic. the part that's complex is we're sort of in the middle in a somewhat incoherent way. now they are mortal enemies. we have a problem here. it's strategic. >> very complicated. this is all very important context. thank you. >>> another big story today. the supreme court takes us a case involving facebook. the issue, when does a threat posted on facebook and other social media sites become a critical act? should it be protected as free speech? we'll talk about that, ahead. so imagine -- what if there was a new class of medici

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what about washington getting tougher on its allies like saudi arabia because it's no secret that saudi money was a crucial factor in the rise of the extremist can bomb or to take on the united states dragged their feet they did declare early on in the uprising that al qaeda was a terrorist organization. and others were terrorist organizations and prescribe them but it did very little to carry through with that and to force its allies to equally prescribe those groups. we speak your language i mean some of the will or not of the. use programs and documentaries in spanish matters to you breaking news a little too negative angles to the stories. so you hear. the spanish find out more visit. again for a fusing to pay its energy bills for six months the kids natural gas supply was finally turned off this last week to the background the long running but ground there let's take a brief resume may have the facts ukraine currently still russia in excess of four billion dollars after it stopped making any payments in november what russia wanted what it said its final deadline was that at least s

barrels a day at the moment it's about nine and a half so the spare capacity that saudi has is about the same as what iraq exports so if we were to use that oil from the market it would be the tightest market we've we've had for a long long long time and even then it's not clear that saudi arabia would be able to replace the lost iraqi barrels we're going to see a lot of change on that will market we're going to see people having to stop using their cars it was a really would be kind of endgame scenario if iraq were to lose its oil and then we could even see another economic recession across the whole world. but u.s. president has stressed that to the crisis in iraq can only be solved through political means how about in a white house briefing he said some form of military action could be taken if there's a need for it for details i'm joined now by marine a partner in new york worried and we've seen obama stand up for i mean it's been weeks as anybody has said anything from his the side of things what more do we know from that speech. well as the crisis in iraq is deepening the u.s.

>> certainly saudi arabia, they make the case that the royal family in saudi arabia feels they are under athreat from isis, according to saudi officials. isis has been leafletting some areas in saudi arabia, trying to get recruits. they view isis as a security threat. maliki is pointing the finger at saudi arabia. the facts on the ground right now is isis has made so much money from the fight in syria, taking over oil fields, exto extorting money, a variety of rackets, looting antiquities and selling them, very high-priced items. now that they have taken over mosul, as you know, they were able to raid government banks as well as private banks and take a lot of gold, hundreds of millions of dollars. this now may be, probably the most well-funded terrorist organization, jihadist organization, in the world with more money than al qaeda in the arabian peninsula or other groups out there. at this point, it seems they have no lack of funds and recruiting more people is probably going to be easier for them, now that they've had successes on the battlefield here in iraq. >> mosul alone, the seco

the people, september 11, was caused by a saudi arabian citizen. saudi arabia, qatar -- terrorist organization. when will the u.s. start to stop breed terrorists? we will reach to a stable germany and the middle east. germany in the middle east is and this is different from countries which surround iraq and their interests. interests to achieve stability in iraq, but countries surround iraq. they do not want to reach this goal. >> thank you. so can i address the first part of your question? because i think it is an important issue. no, i know, but now i will talk. you talked about why the u.s. does not create an alliance with syria and other countries against terrorism, and one of the things i have done in my ramblings around the world is i have spoken to government leaders. i raised this question to bashar al-assad. because there was an effort reverse thetry to hostile relationships between the u.s. and serious, and it seemed to me there was ample common ground. as you probably know, bashar al-assad used to facilitate jihad ease --as you probably

saudi arabia wanted the united states to strike. and in the case of iraq, today they are saying obama doesn't have the guts to fight terrorism. they want him to intervene in iraq and basically fight. this tells you, it tells you that it is a fierce regional struggle taking place in the middle east and unfortunately the victims of this cold war in the middle east are the syrian people, the iraqi people and lebanese people that this is not about sectarianism. >> it is quite interesting in the question for regional dominance iran is looking for approach from the u.s. and talking about cooperating. >> this is part of the tragedy, one of the most important elements is the deepening between the iranians and the americans. it is increase intensifying close relationship between the two. john kerry saying we are going to share the information with iran. well, if you are walking about a particular question, that means we are no longer at enemies buttal lies. that is what is developing in the region. >> very interesting to talk with you about

woer working with the saudied on this and one of the things the saudis have is an incredible database of active muslims. they have been forthcoming on trying to get us analytically on the same page to help us. i think part of this is deepening that technical cooperation because ultimately there's a huge overlap between saudi interests and american interests. already more of that work is going on. i think it needs to continue. >> thank you. allow me to introduce our next speaker. mr. peter monsul. he is a retired army colonel. the last one executive officer to general petraeus. peter is now a professor at military history at the ohio state university. he has authorized two books on the iraq war. my journey have general david petraeus and the iraqi war. he went to west point and graduated top of his class. secondly he is part of the most 67ing wshed award presented by atfb a couple of months ago. peter. >> thank you all for being here. i appreciate the attendance. we have a lot to talk about. you know, dr. zeod and i were talking about breakfast and we were saying it's amazing how many

. >> rose: now you know he basically said that deal and the saudis and all were upset.chemical weapons, he only supported it. that was the reason the united states did not attack because that deal was made with the russians and the syrians, correct. >> well, i don'té@ know why. i do know that obama suddenly decided he had to go to congress to get authority to do anything with respect to military force which i don't think he had to do. but again, it's a case whereof set a strong leadership out of the administration. we had a lot of folks out there ready to go to support the effort to take action with respect to syria. and they were all left hanging out to dry in a sense from the president back off and decided not to go that route. one of the individuals i talked with out there in a private conversation, i won't name him but he for the fourth time in all the years i known him he's saying it's gotten to be for me speaking of himself, politically dangerous in my home country. now to be necessarily identified as a friend of the united states. that things had gotten so diffi

keep in iend, saudi arabia and iraq have had a very tumultuous relationship.ou can see how the saudi government is positioning itself in this standoff. they are blaming the iraqi government. the iraqi cabinet issued a statement blaming the saudis for supporting extremists and the two are not just neighbors, they're some of the largest oil producers in the world. and if you've been to the saudi/iraqi border, that already is separated with a high tech state of the art barrier. so it's not as porous as it used to be. >> yusef, let's get back to the implications here and the attack on the refinery, the country's largest. this underscores how precarious the situation is for oil industry contractors. you have to ask yourself, if they are being evaluated, that is bound to impact the longer term production profile of iraq. >> absolutely. there is a lot at stake, no doubt. the baiji oil refinery was -- for a long time. but that's now increasingly being seen as just one of several targets that the extremists or the isis forces could target and it is important to them be

and the second question has to do with saudi arabia. is it correct that you stated earlier that defending the current saudi regime would be worth the potential cost of losing the largest oil producer in the region, and if that is the case, what is your view of the saudi sponsorship of jihad which we are currently engaged in fighting in the middle east today? really big questions. you worked two in. [laughter] and must vladimir putin -- unless vladimir is the caricatured, sort of committed rebuild the soviet union character he has been portrayed, if he is not that person and it's that he is essentially a traditionally european statesmen try to do the best for his country, trying to grab gains where he can, catering to a nationalism in his own country, etc. -- unless there is a whole lot of energy coming out of russia, i do not think this will inject that much new life into nato. i think before this happened, you could sort of see what was happening to nato. gentile,nd of agen incremental, hollowing out of forces on the continent. the eur