[booing] and, her senior thesis was about saul alinsky. this was someone that she greatly admired and that affected all of her philosophies subsequently. now, interestingly enough, let me tell you something about saul alinsky. he wrote a book called, "rules for radicals." on the dedication page, it acknowledges lucifer, the original radical who gained his own kingdom. now, think about that. this is a nation where our founding document, the declaration of independence, talks about certain inalienable rights that come from our creator. this is a nation where our pledge of allegiance says, we are one nation under god. this is a nation. [applause] ben carson: this is a nation where every coin in our pocket, and every bill in our wallet says, "in god we trust." so, are we willing to elect someone as president who has as their role model somebody who acknowledges lucifer? think about that. [booing] ben carson: the secular progressive agenda is antithetical to the principals of the founding of this nation, and if we continue to allow them to take

, and her thesis was about saul alinsky, someone she greatly admired and affected all her philosophiesonsequently. interestingly enough, something interesting about alinsky. he wrote a book called "rules for radicals," and the dedication page, it acknowledges lucifer, the original radical who gained his own kingdom. now think about that. this is a nation where our founding documents, the declaration of independence talk about certain inalienable rights that come from our creator. [ applause ] this is a nation where our pledge of allegiance says we are one nation under god. [ applause ] this is a nation. this is a nation where every coin in our pocket and every bill in our wallet says in god we trust. so are we willing to elect someone as president who has, as their role model, somebody who acknowledges lucifer? think about that. the secular progressive agenda is antithetical to the principles of the founding of this nation, and if we continue to allow them to take god out of our lives, god will remove himself from us. we will not be blessed, and our nation will go down the tubes, and w

of the things i have learned about hillary clinton is that one of her heroes, her mentors, was saul alinski tell you something about saul alinsky, he wrote a book called "rules for radicals," on the dedication page, it acknowledges "lucifer, the original radical who gained his own kingdom." so are we willing to elect someone as president who has as their role model, somebody who acknowledges lucifer? >> seth: you know, after each chris christie line, the audience yelled guilty and after each ben carson line, they yelled, "we don't quite follow you! [ laughter ] what exactly are you trying to say?" [ light laughter ] so ben carson basically accused hillary clinton of worshipping satan. ultimately, this entire convention so far has been designed to sow fear, and to scare people into believing they're living in a dystopian nightmare, despite the fact that both illegal immigration and crime, are as low as they've been in decades. i wonder, is it possible you're just fear mongering to distracting from the fact you've nominated a reckless buffoon with zero experience and a completely incoherent a

. >> her senior thesis was about saul alinsky. he wrote a book called rules for radicals.e dedication page, it acknowledges lucifer. so are we willing to elect someone as president who has as their role model somebody who acknowledges loose if you lucifer, think about that. >> larry: i shall think about that. okay, i'm thinking about it. can i have some thinking music please. ♪ ♪ okay, i've thought about it. and you're a [bleep] idiot. why is this guy speaking anyway? you know what? it's a different version of the skeazy-pass. the rnc gives major speaking platforms to a few black people and it doesn't matter if they're crazy or slamming black people. they can go, see, we're diverse. that's why cnn's token trump supporter and emperor palpatine lookalike. jeffrey lord is so proud to say things like. >> two of the most popular speakers at this convention are black americans. ben carson and doct-and uh sheriff david clarke. that's that's-that's nice but it's completely irrelevant. but thank you, sir. [applause] >> larry: i don't need any thinking music for this one. [bleep] th

or maybe -- >> ben carson calling her lucifer because she once wrote a paper on saul alinsky. >> somebodycknowledges lucifer. harvey: i walked out of the room with ben carson. >> where were you walking out out to the beach? harvey: no, i walked into another room. >> you have an open floor plan. let's be honest. [laughter] harvey: eventually you get to another room. announcer: around mile marker eight. thanks, r.n.c., you got our vote, for most tasteless pin ever. >> hi, kate. kate upton at l.a.x. looking stunning as always. i talk to her about another stunner, melania trump. everyone's making fun of malani -- melania trump. is it harder for a good looking person to be taken seriously? she just smiles to that. i say, but i have seen her naked. it's hard to be taken seriously when you have seen her naked, right? >> yeah. >> you're saying you can't take your girlfriend seriously? i could never have a serious conversation with her because you have seen her naked? >> it's not a bad point. it's not a bad point. anyway, that stuff aside, i see kate upton's neck. harvey: god, please tell me you d

this is not the first time that he has used saul alinsky to tie clinton to lucifer. he made similar comments last month. >>> it was a long road to winning over their support but last night the most powerful republicans in congress addressed the crowd in cleveland. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell entered the convention hall to a chorus of boos but he and other top leaders focused their attention more on hillary clinton and passing a true conservative agenda in congress. than on the nominee himself. for mcconnell "the washington post" tallied 24 mentions of the democratic nominee just five for trump during mcconnell's speech. during speaker ryan's speech paul ryan's 12 minute speech, only two mentions of trump. here are some of their best attack lines from last night. >> hillary clinton is the definition of status quo. >> what does the democratic party establishment offer? they are offering a third obama term, brought to you by another clinton. >> when innovation advances technology, hillary clinton uses it to put american secrets at risk. >> she lied about her

and her senior thesis was about saul alinsky. that she greatly admired and that affected all of her philosophies subsequently. now, interestingly enough, let me tell you something about saul alinsky. he wrote a book called "rules for radicals." on the dedication page, it acknowledges lucifer, the original radical, who gained his own kingdom. now, think about that. this is a nation where our founding document, the declaration of independence, talks about certain inalienable rights that come from our creator. [cheers and applause] this is a nation where our pledge of allegiance says we are one nation "under god." [cheers and applause] this is a nation -- [cheers and applause] this is a nation where every coin in our pocket and every bill in our wallet says "in god we trust." [cheers and applause] so are we willing to elect someone as president who has as their role model somebody who acknowledges lucifer? think about that. the secular progressive agenda is antithetical to the principles of the founding of this nation. and if we con

david: ben carson enraging critics bringing up his her role model, saul alinsky, who.et's ask a woman who acts as spirit all advisor to donald trump, pastor paul are white senior pastor of new destiny christian center. thanks for coming in. what do you think of ben carson said? did he go over a line? >> it is so good to be with you. can you tell me again. i did not hear what you had to say? david: that's quite all right. we repeated the part of ben carson's speech where he mentioned the fact we say in god we trust so much of what we do here when in fact hillary clinton's expressed or at least one of her mentors expressed admiration for lou sypher of the was that statement by ben carson a little over the spirit all line? >> i was not there for dr. ben carson. i do believe, to say in god we trust is absolutely correct statement. i want there to hear the full statement what ben carson said nor the context. i do know doctor carson's character. i know he is a wonderful man. i know he is a godly man. and i don't know exact context that he said it in. so to answer direct, was

. >> one of her heroes, her mentors was saul alinsky. he wrote a book called "rules for radicals." on the dedication page it acknowledges lucifer. so, are we willing to elect someone as president who has as their role model somebody who acknowledges lucifer? think about that. >> reporter: speaker after speaker, linking clinton's e-mail and benghazi controversies to a lack of trust. >> she lied about her e-mail. she lied about her server. she lied about benghazi. she even lied about sniper fire. why in the world would democrats put forward such a candidate. >> a hillary clinton presidency will endanger our national security. >> deception and dishonesty are all second nature for hillary. >> no way, hillary. no way on earth. >> reporter: and house speaker paul ryan, scarcely mentioning trump, focusing his attention on the risk of electing clinton. >> watch the democratic party convention next week. that four-day infomercial of politically correct moralizing. you can get through four days of it with a little help of a mute button. but four more years of it, not a chance. >> now, house

their foreheads, but -- >> i have to tell you, there is some on the right that is obsessed with saul alinskirules for radicals." the irony here is the one presidential candidate who did use it as a guidebook was not clinton, not obama. it was howard dean in 2004. i will never forget. all right. sarah, here was your standout moment. >> vote your conscience, vote for candidates up and down the ticket. >> that would have been mine, too. >> it was a wow moment for a host of reasons. but it said to conservative mormons in utah, conservative christians in the midwest that it was okay not to support their party's nominee. i think ultimately, he did a huge disservice to donald trump, potentially a disservice to his own political future. we won't know that for a couple years. >> it was gutsy. i am always impressed when a politician puts their career on the line. he did it. let's move to the dnc. i will go backwards. pick your moment first. here it is. >> hillary clinton was right when she called my son the best of america. if it was up to donald trump, he never would have been in america. >> there we

>> one of her heros, her mentors, was saul alinsky. >> if hillary clinton were elected, she would be the first president who couldn't pass a basic background check. >> are we willing to elect someone as president who has, as their role model, somebody who acknowledges lucifer? >> that's a taste of what we were hearing from the podium last night. joining me now, howard dean, and msnbc contributor and former chair of the dnc, and hugh hewitt, an nbc news and analyst, also host of the hugh hewitt show on the salem radio network. hugh, let me go to you first. obviously, a big appetite there. you can hear it in the response from the crowd. a big appetite for attacks on hillary clinton. the criticism today, maybe it's too much of an attack on hillary clinton, too little of a reason to vote for donald trump. what do you say to that? >> i say that's silly, steve. with so many targets, you've got to spend a lot of time notching off all of the ones that hillary clinton presents you, whether it's syria or egypt or libya. the status of forces agreement, the server, there's so many different thin

he went off prompter by choice or by fault when he started talking about saul alinsky and "rules for radicals." when he thanked people he went off prompter when he started talking about we the people. no oned in the. he did it well. they are trying to keep everybody on mess and. and carson clearly wanted to deliver his own mess and last night. martha: it felt like paul ryan was on his own island last night. he mentioned donald trump only twice in his speech. he did not give the best speech of his life. bill: we'll bring in former texas governor rick perry. martha: donald trump and running mate mike pence are holding a campaign event in cleveland afternoon. it will be the first time since becoming the party's official nominee. good morning, john. >> donald trump will arrive in a couple hours and day here through the speech tomorrow evening. this will be the one and only joint appearance he and indiana governor mike pence will have. it's kind of different than past campaigns. the 2000 campaign george bush and dick cheney didn't have any joint appearances. my pen tonight will give the v

she talks about the saul alinsky message, the famous community organize freres the 19650s and '70s. i should say infamous. she wasn't going to be his protege. he learned from him, but she said i'm going to go to yale law school. but real tragedy about donald trump and his advisers reading that book, they'll read it for gotcha, how can we embarrass. your question was really a more important one of how can anyone pull lessons from this which canning help us move forward? i think our major challenge in america right now is we're good at knocking each other down, at denigrating, at gotcha, but what do we want? make america great enough is not enough. we need a deep answer. we need to know who we stand for. >> guest: i think one of the biggest lessons you can pull about her, she talks about this shovel and what it means. and when we were writing our book, hrc, i originally wanted to call it the phoenix because she's had these rises and falls and dips and falls and, you know, here she is again. she loses 2008, how does she make her comeback? you know, this sort of gives her a window into

. >> idolized at the time or admired saul alinsky. >> yes. he was appearing to the christian base.very enthusiastic. people on the right love ben carson any way. and what towed say in terms of hillary clinton, he is hague out the case for why individuals should not be voting for her. her lack of accountability and responsibility, her lack of leadership in the state department. there's a long list of things that hillary clinton has done that is really a turn-off for a lot of people. >> again, i'm sorry. go ahead. >> probably what you were going to mention which was right before that part of the speech, he talked about specifically education and young people. and the millennial vote, we were mentioning earlier, will be key. for either candidate. so did he do a good job in that respect? >> no. i don't really think he did. i mean, that job fell to the trump children. and one had to acknowledge tonight that what was striking about this convention is the extent to which it has become donald trump's convention. the children being the forces of height, a family being the forces of light, e

he tied her to saul alinsky and lucifer. somehow she is a protege, disciple of lucifer. this is really rhetorical excess of a new dimension. >> this is so loud with the music we want to be able to hear all of you we're going to an interview that lisa desjardin desjardins -- that rachel martin did, npr rachel martin did. >> i'm down here on the podium with the governor of arkansas, asa hutchinson, just spoke from the stage a few moments ago. governor, thank you for being with us. >> i'm delighted to be with you. >> you were a late comer to supporting donald trump. what changed your mind? >> well, he won. was a large part of it. i supported marco rubio, but donald trump prevailed in the primaries. whenever i look at clear distinction in november between our choices there's not any doubt that donald trump is the best one to lead our country forward. and then i started to see growing sense of unity and excitement about his campaign. all that he offers. >> he is putting out some ideas about free trade that haven't exactly been in line with long standing republican philosophy