the participants include author dinesh desousa, saul alinsky son david, and ralph benko president of the alinsky center. >> let me introduce the speakers. we have first dinesh desousa who is the author of a forthcoming book "the big lie." he has produced and starred in hillary is america and obama's america. he has a 35 year career as a writer come skull and public intellectual, a foreign policy analyst in the reagan white house. we have ralph benko from the alinsky center. president of the alinsky center has been called by "washington post" magazine columnist the second most conservative man in the world for his widely recognized advocacy of the gold standard. then we have david alinsky, the son of saul alinsky at the chairman of the alinsky center, famed architect of a new kind of political strategy. so we will start with the resolution -- let me pull it up -- resolved with saul alinsky the famous community organizer with the revolution, was revolutionary neo-marxist and many of america's problems today can be traced to the destructive legacy of saul alinsky, obama, hillary and the

people think they know saul alinsky. and with the jewish theology and by the way dinesh d'souza you are wrong. saul alinsky was not an atheist you say these things and then you confuse people. and as a classical liberal in the british sense of job lock, adam smith and the left has appropriated his work those who may or may not have read it circulating garbage. to his beloved wife this was an epigram. from the rabbi and thomas paine. he never said the ends justified the means and what did saul alinsky really stand for? and there was no o cover story it was a summation of the way that he lived here is the man with no secrets this is what i stand for and what i pray you use your power to do. respect the dignity of the people that they cannot be denied that elementary right to participate in the solutions of their own problems. those who are not helpless or passive with public/private services. with a significant part of the action with the denial of the opportunity to participate in the denial of human dignity. i yield the

saul alinsky was all about power. taking power. people think they saw the wise guy lucifer and by the way, lucifer according to martin luther and john calvin was not satan. in jewish theology and by the way, dinesh, you are wrong. you made a misstatement. saul alinsky was not an atheist. he was agnostic and a jew until his dying day. you say things that are not fac fac factually correct and confuse people. saul alinsky was a classical liberal in the british sense of john lock, adam smith, and the left has appropriated his identity and work. i will summarize you one photograph from rules for radicals but -- paragraph -- don't be fueled by the rules or people who may or may not have read it but are circulating garbage. it is not dedicated to lucifer. it was dedicated to his beloved then wife, irene alinksky. this was an epigram which david will talk about sandwiched in with other epigrams. david will talk about that. he never said the ends justify the means. read the chapter. he asks explicitly what ends justify what means? it is ver

. >> saul alinsky was a complex man.i think it's interesting that virtually none of what i said in my opening statement has been challenged by either, i guess they want to quibble about whether he was an agnostic or atheist. quite frankly out conceit on that point. he was culturally a jew, he is not particularly religious, and maybe he was merely a -- i don't know agnostic, fair enough. that's not the heart of the matter though. the heart of the matter is, in situ that saul alinsky really have this impact on obama and hillary? we've seen a weird defense of his legacy. you can call disruptive because he didn't have a legacy at all. neither obama or hillary paid attention to him really, i think that's not true. it is true that obama and hillary developed a serious shift from him. if you will, they broke with him at the end, but on 1.1.1. essentially he was outside man. that sense, my mafia analogy of controlling the street through intimidation is very apps. he use the outsider shakedown technique. obama and hillary went on

i will end with this quote from saul alinsky which hangs in my office. it is saul alinsky quoting thomas pane saying quote let them call me rebel, and welcome i feel no concern from it but i would suffer the misery of devils where i can make a whore of my soul. saul alinksky. thank you, everyone, for participating. c-span, where history unfolds daily. in 1979, c-span was created as a public service by america's television companies and is brought to you by your cable or satellite provider. [inaudible conversations] >> good evening to barnes and noble upper west side senior national correspondent focusing on political coverage over a the magazine and cambridge news previously a senior editor of the of the antic also written for the new yorker and "esquire" and other publications his new book tonight is devil's bargain which the "new york times" calls deeply reported in compulsively readable. the number one the year times best-seller this week. [applause] joshua green. >>. >> i am always amazed with all of the donald trump and steve bannon that we are subj

the participants include author dinesh desousa, saul alinsky son david, and ralph benko president of the alinsky center. >> let me introduce the speakers. we have first dinesh desousa who is the

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this is saul alinsky tactic. now they are taking that violence and hurting people.nedy: it's a great rationalization that violates several constitutional amendments. i also think they go to berkeley is because the cops don't do much. >> they are paying to go there to be activists. why when we see this, why don't people say yes he has a point, there is violence on both side. kennedy: there is a clear difference between neo-nazis and black lives matter. when you hurt someone there should be consequences. kat: white supremacists murdered a girl saturday. that's why that should have been the focus. if somebody i loved got murdered. >> if i was the president giving the speech in berkeley i would not say there was violence on both sides. kennedy: my worry is it will end up with more loss of life. that's not okay or hah you change people's mind and it's not acceptable in the land of freedom. thank you so much. ben, joe and kat. president trump is scheduled the travel to texas tomorrow. will the president's response to his first national disaster come under scrutiny by thos

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the participants include author, saul's son david alinski and ralph president of the center. then at 7:45 duke university history professor nancy mclane examine work of the economist james and influence on the political ride. ... intellectual. we have ralph benko from the alinsky center. he has been called the second most conservative man in the world for his recognized adequacy of the gold standard. and david alinsky, famed architect of a new kind of political