. >>> also, with signing up for obamacare scheduled to begin on tuesday, saul gonzales surveys the massive, multimillion-dollar campaigns for and against it, with religious people on both sides. >>> major funding for "religion and ethics newsweekly" is provided by the lilly endowment, an indianapolis based private family foundation dedicated to its founders' interest in religion, community development, and education. additional funding also provided by mutual of america, designing customized individual and group retirement products. that's why we're your retirement company. >>> welcome. i'm bob abernethy. it's good to have you with us. as members of congress debated measures to avoid a government shutdown, religious groups urged them to consider the impact of their policies on the poor and vulnerable. several faith leaders said the government has an obligation to americans who depend on federal benefits and aid programs. meanwhile, some religious conservatives supported massive budget cuts as a step toward more fiscal responsibility. >>> there was widespread international condemnation this

. >>> also, with signing up for obamacare scheduled to begin on tuesday, saul gonzales surveys the massive, multimillion-dollar campaigns for and against it, witreligious people on both sides. >>> major funding for "religion and ethics newsweekly" is provided by the lilly endowment, an indianapolis based private family fountion dedicated to its founders' interest in religion, community development, and education. additional funding also provided by mutual of america, designing customized individual and group retirement products. that's why we're your retirement company. >>> welcome. i'm bob abernethy. it's good to have you with us. as members of congress debated measures to avoid a government shutdown, religious groups urged them to consider the impact of their policies on the poor and vulnerable. several faith leaders said the government has an obligation to americans who depend on federal benefits and aid programs. meanwhile, some religious conservatives supported massive budget cuts as a step toward more fiscal responsibility. >>> there was widespread international condemnation this wee

and there are religious activists on both sides, as saul gonzales reports from los angeles. >> reporterhours before it opens each morning, a line forms in front of st. john's community health clinic in the heart of south los angeles. the people who come to this government-supported health center are some of l.a.'s poorest and sickest residents, and most are uninsured. they turn to this place because if they can't pay, they'll still be seen and treated. do you have insurance? >> no, i don't have any insurance. >> reporter: you don't have insurance? >> no. >> reporter: when's the last time you had it? >> two years ago, when i lost my job. >> i don't have insurance. >> reporter: you don't have insurance. what's that like? >> just trying to not get sick. >> reporter: if the affordable care act, better known as obamacare, works, it's the patients at st. john's clinic, and millions more like them across the country, who are among those who are supposed to benefit the most. jim mangia is the president and ceo of st. john's. he says obamacare's importance can't be underestimated. >> there's no