>> saul goodman. i'm mr.i na's attorney, and you're in violation of his constitutional rights. >> when they said they were going to do a spinoff of "breaking bad" about saul goodman, i couldn't imagine what they were thinking. >> set out to keep our crew working and to keep working ourselves. let's do a spinoff. let's do "better call saul." and we sold it without really knowing what we're going to do. people would be amazed at how little we knew in those early days. >> they revealed that he was not really saul goodman, that before that he was this guy named jimmy mcgill, who was a much more complicated person, much more symp thetic. . >> i've been doing the right thing for all these years, and where has it gotten me? >> they wanted jimmy to turn into saul by the end of season one, but we like jimmy. >> i'm fine with this. >> me too. wait until you see the fossil. >> if jessie pinkman was the key to unlocking the character of walter white in "breaking bad," i think the key to unlocking the character of jimmy m

[alan] they revealed that he was not really saul goodman. that before that, he was this guy named jimmy mcgill who was a much more complicated person, much more sympathetic. i've been doing the right thing for all these years now, and where has it gotten me? nowhere. [alan] they wanted jimmy to turn into saul by the end of season one, but the creators saw the same things that we in the audience did, which was, jimmy's a wonderful character. like, we like jimmy. -i'm fine with this. -yeah, me too. wait 'til you see what i floss with. [laughs] if jesse pinkman was the key to unlocking the character of walter white in breaking bad, i think the key to unlocking the character of jimmy mcgill is kim wexler, played by the amazing rhea seehorn. kim wexler may be one of the greatest characters created in the last decade. there's a scene where jimmy brings her in for the first time on a scheme. -come with me. -[kim] what? just...come on, trust me. [aisha] he decides to try and rope this stock trader into paying for this $50 shot of tequila they can't