republican circles, saunders -- cumbersome michael grimm had a meeting. that might be the type of event that would cause that. does not seem like we're there yet. both sides going into this meeting sticking to their guns as if it were a week ago. gerri: what is interesting about this i think, and you mentioned this system is so eloquently, they have not been talking. maybe this is a breakthrough. it has really been both sides lined up facing each other and not having the secret negotiations that you normally expect. december ended january. they ended up working something

at worst, it could have been picked off. >> gus: saunders has had a wonderful afternoon.o scores. he's on the bench now, though. second and four. he hands it off and he picks up a first down at the 42. downhill running right now for roy finch. >> charles: the left side of the offensive line opened up a nice hole for roy finch to find. gabe ikard in the middle, tyrus thompson, number 71, nice job on the left side. >> gus: first and ten at the 42. and the handoff to finch. finch clawing his way forward, picks up six. bruce jones on the tackle. >> charles: last series i talked about his size possibly being a liability inside. he may be hiding very well and then going through with nice vision and strength to create extra opportunity for himself. i mean you're right, look. look at the treetops here. over the top of roy finch, good luck trying to find him back there. and then when you do, he's got more wallop at the end of the run. >> gus: second and four. finch, changes directions and picks up the first down. >> charles: that run was a vision run, because he saw where the hole

to tell us more, we have the lead expedition member, ben saunders. know you've been preparing for this for years. you're about to set off. are you excited? >> i am indeed. we've been so busy that i'm still waiting for the moment that it sinks in that we're off. we should go around the 22nd of this month. >> so why? >> i've led ten expeditions. >> it's never been done. >> nick said this is an unsupported trip. you don't have a sponsor or don't have a cell phone? >> we have a sponsor. we are traveling on food, wearing skis, each dragging a sled indonesia behind us with our food and fleiss for ten months. hopefully once a week we're sending back video. >> i think a lot of people would want to know what you guys eat. >> we're eating 6,000 calories a day. i've fattened up. om 25 pounds heavier. i expect to lose 30, 35 pounds clearly we're not exploring in the same way captain scott was. >> is there any doubt in your mind you'll finish? >> i wouldn't be setting out if i didn't think it was possible. >> scott has 50 really interesting videos. go to rightthi

saunders. in particular when we talk about defense of, providing defense counsel, providing defense counsel in criminal trials. that's a constitutional right to both the sequestration and the shutdown have inhibited our ability to disappear in the shutdown we basically said that guidelines we have are that people who provide constitutional services, that that money continues. why isn't that continuing, given that defense counsel is a constitutionally required service? why is the shutdown not exempting debt as it is for other people in the government to provide constitutional necessary services? [inaudible] >> to also provide an answer, congressman, thank you for the question. we have been told that yes, federal public defender, federal defender offices, it will be up to the head of the office who declare is essential but because the courts will continue to whatever extent they will due process criminal cases, that some of our office or all of our offices have been cut to the bone already will b

worried investors at this office in midtown manhattan, but the company's top market analyst liz ann saundersxpects the mood to change. >> given the latest dysfunction around the potential shutdown and the debt sealing fight, -- ceiling fight, i would expect another hit to occur to consumer confidence, investor confidence. >> reporter: investors paid a price during the last shutdown. the s&p 500, the stock index of the nation's biggest companies, fell nearly 4%. stocks rebounded after the end of that suggestdown, up 10.5 % the next month. but the markets may not be as resilient this time. the washington standoff saps the faith investors and businesses have in a recovery. that appears fan jim. -- >> fragile. >> they are less willing to take risk. by risk i mean long-term capital spending projects, long- term hiring. so they tend to make these short-term decisions and it doesn't add to the strength of the economy long term. >> that was liz ann saunders if charms schwab owe charles schwab. >> we're going to see another congressional battle in about two weeks over the nation's borrowing limit. if

for saunders he is the key to a team that can end minnesota's play off drought that dates back nearlyecade when saunders himself was a coach. >> are there any mayers that you played with other keached? rchlts. >> it's funny you say it's making you nervous you remember when we had these highlights and video play book and i had a pure memory and my idol growing up. i had clips of him at lsu. i gave him a 60 pin clip to watch. because he is ver is a little be him. >> while ricky's passioning skills and defensive ability has led him to be one of the league's leader in steals. his new boss wants him to take a page from crystal petes book. >> your greatest strength blb your greatest weak rns if you can't control that. he is extremely unselfish and is a facilitator. and wants to get everybody else involved. but that is like miss down fall. >> how do you feel about the the national players. >> when there is a mistake made and they are frustrated and whatever is being said in their native language is not being said in english. many teams we don't know what they are saying. from the looks we ha

aaron saunders owns clearly innovative. he builds apps for a ling. >> one of the things i see in the kids -- living. >> one of the things i see in the kids is right now you spend all your time on the phone and somebody else is producing content. why don't you create your own content and ideas because you know what you want better than they do? >> reporter: the whole project is the result of a nonprofit called start up middle school. patrick guzman is the founder. >> right now if you ask most of these kids when they start off could you be the next bill gates or mark zuckerberg, the answer would be no because they could not see the connection. >> reporter: but thanks to guzman's creativity and saunders' experience they are making those connections and it's not just coming up with the idea. they learn how to make customers keep coming back by using something called push notification in their app. >> clearly you use instagram. so when someone comments on your photos and you get a notification? that's a push notification that ma

earlier this week, an open mic picked up this exchange between republican saunders mitch mcconnell and rand paul. >> do you have a second? >> i'm all wired up here. >> i'm doing cnn, going over and over again, we're willing to compromise, we're willing to negotiate. i think it's awful for them to say that over and over again. >> i do, too. i just came back from a two-hour meeting with him and that was basically the same view, privately, as it was publicly. >> if we keep saying, we wanted to fund it, we fought for that but we're willing to compromise, i think we -- i know we don't want to be here but we're going to win this, i think. >> we're going to win, unclear what a victory looks like in the eyes of senate republicans who on wednesday blasted senator ted cruz in a private luncheon, accusing him of not having a strategy when he started the obama care fight over the budget. the democratic leader of the senate, reid, ripped speaker boehner, saying boehner was acting like a coward and this morning boehner responded with this attack against congressional democrats and the white house. >

saunders philip to have some time when i first do both things when i hope people don't know tonight you know could be called because you got a call to a photo of some. body in a real world. skid row a war or place it's insane and i got my section eight i'm off the street i'm sober and i made comply or. if i take your country. your part fresh out the stuff that got a lot of. fire so it's. you know you forget things you would never think about that you need you need the dish soap and. strokes very cooking oil with salt and toilet paper a cleaner supplies and a broom and this is my walking. this got all my pictures my certificate to completion this one here was a star for get from the class foundation this is a thirty day primary detox this one here i have to say i'm changed gendered which was a tough one to get and this one was and i was very completions for homeless court i got on total like one hundred fifty tickets and what i do is go and check myself and to get at least to me this by getting into a program so if as long as i was in a program the courts would clue about all the tickets

leaks founder julian assange this was at the ecuadorian embassy in london where he still held now mr saunders said that he was basically concerned not for mr snowden but for the safety of those who have been helping him and publishing his leaks let's take a listen to what he had to say. i'm more concerned in terms of prison people at risk. center harrison who was involved in killing it would start out of home spend thirty nine days with him more school report protecting him following petitions to be in russia. now she's from the u.k. because we know he got a newspaper that was rated grills part time for nine hours on the counter terrorism act here without charges and a formal investigation for terrorism investigation has started all. over in relation to all those people. so there you have it julian assange speaking out there now as for edward snowden he is safe and sound in an undisclosed location here in moscow where he was just finally able to meet with this father both the songs and snowden though very much concerned about the state of whistleblowers across the world and and how the people

unions to the growing debate over banning transit strikes, and for analysis we're joined by debra saunders, san francisco chronicle columnist, carla, san francisco chronicle senior political writer, and tom bakar, consumer editor. i want to begin with you, tom. what are the latest developments, and how did this situation deteriorate so badly? >> i think it deteriorated so badly because both sides had great expectations for what they wanted, and they were so far apart that there was never a chance for them to actually meet. i think this thing was dead on arrival the minute they started and even though there were certain concessions made, the reality of the situation was that they were so far apart that it was impossible for them to get together. >> they had a press blush within the half hour basically saying nothing has changed. >> basically what the union said was, look, if -- we'll take the money we've agreed on and all of that stuff, but what we want you to do is allow these other issues, these work rules issues and some of these other issues to be arbitrated, and we'll just live with wh

there is some unease in republican circles, saunders -- cumbersome michael grimm had a meeting.the type of event that would cause that. does not seem like we're there yet. both sides going into this meeting sticking to their guns as if it were a week ago. gerri: what is interesting about this i think, and you mentioned this system is so eloquently, they have not been talking. maybe this is a breakthrough. it has really been both sides lined up facing each other and not having the secret negotiations that you normally expect. december ended january. they ended up working something out. before you knew it they had a tax deal done, all these other deals done, and that was it. you have not been hearing about any of that on capitol hill. the speculati on this from a number of watchers, number of people on the hill and around here in the white house is that this is an exercise to get everyone to gather. said they are not going to negotiate. republicans, that's what they're looking for. we expect perhaps the house spear might come out to the cameras after words. we might hear from some

a few people i want to mention lee saunders from afscme. [applause] and mary kay henry from sci you. [applause] imagine if you had been there when social security was enacted would that not have been so thrilling or to have been there when medicare became the law of the land. actually chairman dingell and senator rangel word. social security and medicare have been our health and economic security transforming the lives of millions of americans who have worked hard to earn the security and the decades of dreaming of health care reform we have added a third pillar of security, the affordable care act. [applause] to make health care a right for all, not just the privilege for the few. unfortunately for our country last night house republicans to responsibly shut down government in a desperate attempt to shut down the affordable care act. we will work together to reach out and try to get government open again to work for the american people. while they have shut america's government they cannot diminish our enthusiasm from the history we are ma

. >> charles: remember jalen saunders has been his go-to guy tonight.s off the field after getting injured. and sterling shepard, as you just noted, went up and snatched that one out of the air for a monster first down. looked like bester was also in the vicinity, number 11, with the possibility of catching it. >> gus: first down at the 32. oklahoma wants to bleed the clock now. around the corner, and he'll pick up a first down. >> charles: now it's a double-edged sword for texas tech. you can't let the clock bleed out and up more than a field goal. anything more than that and that's it. a field goal gives you a chance for a tie game with a touchdown and two points. >> gus: clock still running. first down. >> charles: let's see when they snap the ball too now. the clock is on the run. you want to snap it inside of five seconds on your play clock, preferably around three. >> gus: tech with only one time-out left. >> charles: the rushing yardage for oklahoma in the second half. >> gus: and a time-out by ou. two time-outs left for bob stoops, his team up b

joining us to talk about it all, liz ann saunders, vice president at charles schwab. how are you?only created 148,000 jobs last month, the government shut down for two weeks and the fed tapering is still hanging over this economy right now. >> i think one of the yi misperceptions between the economy and the economy is the market should only be going up if the economy is booming. actually the stronger the growth the worse the market performs because of the imimimplications for inflation. it's accompanied by low inflation and the market is not trading at a multiple premium and we grind higher and keep the wall of worry intact, that's not bad for the market. >> isn't it also worth looking at slower economy's impact on earnings, looking at earnings coming out for the third quarter and no great shakes. revenue really not there. growth and revenue, that is. so, okay, i understand your point on monetary policy, but what about the monday fejfundamz ann. what about growth? >> growth is likely to pick up a little into 2014. you're about a point and a half multiple discount. what's different

and the shutdown and they want you to know i talked with the president of afscme today lee saunders and he is here with us 100 or send. his commitment is here and he is with us right now. the service employees international union. [applause] >> good morning. good morning brothers and sisters. first i want to thank all the federal employees that are here today fighting. because you want to go to work. is that right? we want to go to work and we want them to vote. i want to thank speaker pelosi and all the congresspeople here for fighting the good fight, for trying to end the shut down. demand that the government be opened and federal workers go back to work. i want to introduce to you and i want to particularly thank sau 5000 members and all of you afscme and all the union members here today. this is really important and there are hundreds of thousands of workers that are waiting and anxiously worried about paying their bills and desperately wanting to go to work. i would like to introduce andrew sales, federal worker for the department of defense. >> hello everybody. i'm a worker for th

. >> don saunders. >> i am privileged to be among so many articulate voices for justice. on behalf of the part of the justice system that ensures justice for people of limited means it's a privilege to be here. i want to thank you and your colleagues for the leadership that you have shown and stress once more how critically important component of justice for civil and criminal law against is to the future. thank you for inviting me. >> you are more than welcome. the lady that is the head of not one, but to important organizations. >> i add my voice in a flanking you for showing a great interest and putting attention on the critically important branch of government, the judiciary. thank you. i look forward to working with all of you in the future. >> thank you. space scott. >> there is no question that we have a full-blown constitutional crisis right now. we have one branch of government that can't play its role because another branch has denied them resources. we have chaos in the executive branch as well because it is ironic to me that the branch that is the source of th

joining us are her sisters, valerie carey and amy carey-jones and attorney eric saunders.orning. i can only imagine it is no easier to see that video than to talk about this as it was, today as it was last week. how is the family doing this morning? >> we're holding up as best as possible under the circumstances. it's still surreal and of course until we actually see our sister's body, which we haven't actually seen her yet, the reality, the gravity of it is just going to be that much more impactful when we actually do see her. >> do you have any expectation of when that would happen, when you'll be able to see your sister's body? >> we're not sure. we went to identify her and we have to get through the necessary paperwork and autopsies and things like that, so we're in the process of also making funeral arrangements so we can have the body transported so it's a lot of steps we need to take before we can actually see her. >> that's totally understandable. one thing i know a lot of people that stick with a lot of people after seeing this terrifying ordeal play out is her yo

the story is that you saunder t government shutdown plan, the bls has three employees to which one tweeterly. so we're not quite sure what all the employees are going to be doing but it doesn't appear to be enough to collect data, which i understand has been collected for the report. the 12th and the 19th are two important dates there. some of the data does come in during the month. they have a cutoff time for preparing it. they also do quite a bit of crunching on the data, as well. and that's probably what would suffer. i do not know, and i can't say, carl, if, in fact, the shutdown were to lift, for example, today, if they could still get that report out. my guess is not. my guess is they would wait. the claims data will come out, because it comes from a separate agency that is separately funded, carl. that's the latest on this data. >> steve, sorry, that's a really interesting point. so you're saying the department of labor will still issue the claims data this thursday, and subsequent thursdays, or just this one? or how long can that go on? >> subsequent thursdays because of where it c