it grew out of my participation of a group called software punks which was also a group or a judo saundra learned his skills and so that this group was composed of very highly educated engineers scientists and technicians who were mostly working for corporations or government on the technology of communication security and they knew that this was going to come into the private market as a cold war wound down and they want to get information out to the public about what was coming so we set up the site to make that information available from people who had access to it but did not want to be identified as a source everything we're doing we know that we cannot keep any secrets. but our side and we told our readers you should not expect us to protect you because we are being watched and every other side is being watched just like we hear leaks is being watched so there is no secrecy on the internet and we make that clear that's the lesson we've learned and we now try to spread that. message be very aware of the internet which is a very large scale spying machine what really really motivates