savina he's about spoke to him via video link he's one of the few people who are still in belarus in minsk who will speak to international media and we asked him about the role of intellectuals and about the dangers of speaking out for a look at that we have almost everybody silenced right now or dissidents who used to be in a position and who used to be imprisoned for many years there are silenced because they're very much afraid of course i am afraid and of course i realize words are they can put me in prison and so on but at the same time what what use of me if not saying to fright what showing what what is the meaning of my life being if i am silent in the moment when everybody needs the truth there's so much image i was saying that he feared that many in the west see belarus as part of russia but it's been an independent state for around 30 years largely invisible to us he says there are problems there now and it's time for the world to pay attention to them ok while attention is what we are attempting certainly a courageous voice from martine of it's there in minsk and just for