savvas sfrantzis was working close by and described what he saw. he was rubbing the girl. was trying to steal the necklace. but he was stabbing her. because she screamed. it was very cold, and he wasn't even hunting or reacting. after he stabbed her, four, five, maybe seven times. he walked as if nothing happened. he worked on the footpath, the sidewalk, because the manager started screaming at him. he didn't quite run. well, we saw david jamieson there, the police & crime commissioner for the west midlands — hejoins us now. shocking events in the city centre last night. can you just bring us up to speed with the number of casualties? one fatality, u nfortu nately casualties? one fatality, unfortunately because of how many injured? well, firstly our thoughts are with the relatives of the man who has died. it must be truly awful for them. and for those who are injured. in total, i understand that a total of eight people were treated by the ambulance service. two of those i understand are very seriously ill in hospital. but others have had sort of relatively minor injuries.