looking at you bush, cheney, rush limbaugh and saxby chambliss. saddle up and get back in the war. john mccain will stay in the senate. we'll have to fill empty seats with younger men who don't hate gays and take rape seriously. sorry, saxby some guys can't handle their hormones. thank you dan savage, zach wahls, richard socarides and sister simone. i will be at pace university this saturday afternoon in new york city. have a great weekend, everyone. we'll see you next week. good night mom. >> joy: at a dnc fund-raiser michelle obama got heckled by a loud, angry woman. how sarah palin snuck into the event is beyond me. plus i'll talk with fox news mole who was fired after leaking secrets about bill o'reilly. the stars of the new reality series are like the kardashians but without the sex tapes, i hope. all of that and more tonight. >> joy: former fox

vice chair of the intelligence committee, saxby chambliss of georgia will be here, as well as democratic senator mark udall, a skeptic of these programs. and general michael head heyden who formerly ran the area. "lincoln unbound," all ahead. >>> a worldwide phenomenon about to kick off right here in washington. that's still ahead. [ male announcer ] the new subway® $4 lunch is for everyone.

senator saxby chambliss explained he has a theory why this problem exists. >> the young folks that areeach of your services are anywhere from 17 to 22 or three. gee, whiz, the hormone level created by nature sets in place the possibility for these things to occur. >> the hormone level created by nature -- why we have 17, 22, 23-year-old rapers, gropers and creeps, these crazy kids with their crazy kid hormones. kids like the 41-year-old air force officer arrested for sexual assault last month. his job in the air force was running the sexual assault prevention program. kids like the sergeant in west point who joind in 1990, at least in his 40s, charged with secretly videotaping women in various states of undress in the bathroom and elsewhere. kids like the army sergeant at fort hood accused of assaulting another officer and running a prostitution ring. before that, he was a sexual abuse educator. kids like the 50-year-old brigadier general in the 82nd airborne division, second in command, charged with forceable sodomy and other accusations of sexual misconduct. in ten months, one guy in

. >>> senator saxby chambliss bliss, republican from georgia is not running for re-election.for re-election next year but is not going to be on the ballot, decided to retire from the united states senate. that means his performance today in the united states senate won't be used against him in the context of an election, at least not in the context of his own election. today there was an historic gathering in the senate of the chiefs of every branch of the united states military, and there in a sea of medals and ribbons and starched collars, the senate armed services committee held a hearing on the very large and very bad sexual assault problem in our nation's military. almost 30,000 cases of unwanted sexual contact just last year. senator saxby chambliss explained he has a theory why this problem exists. >> the young folks that are coming into each of your services are anywhere from 17 to 2 two or three. gee, whiz, the hormone level created by nature sets in place the possibility for these things to occur. >> the hormone level created by nature why we have 17, 22, 23-year-ol

me now, the vice chair of the senate intelligence committee, republican senator from georgia, saxby chamblissand the democratic senator from colorado, mark udall. gentlemen, welcome to you both. senator chambliss, let me start with you on the news over syria and the president's decision to start arming the syrian rebels. what is the end game and what limits do you think should be placed on what the united states does in syria? >> well, i don't think you can place any limits on it right now, david. i do think it's imperative that assad be removed. it's pretty obvious that he is pretty well entrenched now, he has gone to the extreme of letting hezbollah have the run of syria. that is simply not good. and while i know there are bad guys involved in the opposition rebels, we've done a pretty good job of ferreting out who are the good guys or who are the more moderate guys within that opposition, and i'm certain that's who the president's talking about providing arms to. >> should the president go farther, in your judgment? >> well, i think the military alternatives have got to be examined almost

with us, two key voices from the senate intelligence committee, vice chair saxby chambliss. and mark u daul. broader questions raised by the leaks. is snowden a hero or a traitor? how much political damage has been done? and is this the dawn of a new age of big brother? >> announcer: from nbc news in washington, the world's longest running television program, this is "meet the press." with david gregory. >> good sunday morning, as the president prepares to depart this evening for the g-8 summit in another ireland. in iran, celebrations in the streets after a moderate was elected president. we'll be talking about that. quite a different scene in turkey. tear gas and clubs to clear protesters from a public square there. news out of jordan this morning, where king abdullah warning that the king doll will fight with the growing conflict in neighboring syria. and the conflict in syria will be top of mind at the g-8 summit. president obama sitting down face-to-face with russian president vladimir putin tomorrow. that will be a difficult discussion. they are at odds over syria. we'

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how many cases of women -- >> no, he is talking about consensual sex. >> saxby chambliss is. >> yeah,to happen. >> consensual sex will happen yes. that is not what we're talking about here. >> stephanie: and by the way sax saxby -- ♪ you are an idiot ♪ >> who names their kid saxby? >> stephanie: i know. forty-five minutes after the hour. right back on the "stephanie miller show." >> announcer: for a good time call, 1-800-steph-1-2. (vo) from the underworld to the world of privilege. >> everyone in michael jackson's life was out to use him. (vo) no one brings you more documentaries that are real, gripping, current. >> occupy! >> we will have class warfare. (vo) true stories, current perspective. documentaries. on current tv. he's at it again. >>it's michael moore here to see the chairman. >>and this time he's serious. >>we want our money back. >>no filmmaker is more "current" than michael moore. >>there's no in between no more. there's the people that got it all and the people that have nothing. >>welcome to the housing crash. >>boom! >>do not be afraid. federal prison is a nice place.

dianne feinstein, saxby chambliss have come out in support of the program. harry reid. right?rybody is out to chill. this is nothing new. the white house defends this. the executive branch, the legislative branch and the judicial branch are all saying no big deal. >> true, and it's interesting the president clearly has defenders on this. but here is what the critics say. they say the executive branch is doing this. they go to this fisa court. they have made 1,788 requests to the fisa court to do this. guess how many times the fisa court has said no? >> not once. >> not once. if you are looking to the judicial to be an independent oversight of the executive request, it doesn't look like they are doing that. then you go to the congress and you do have serious and respected members of congress saying that they have been very alarmed by this. ron wyden of oregon has been talking about this. >> and mark eudall of colorado. >> these are serious peek talking about this. they talked in the past in the most cryptic ways because they were prohibited from confirming or releasing what was

what is your reaction to saxby chambliss who said this earlier today?young folks that are coming in to each of your services are anywhere from 17 to 22 or 23. gee wiz. the hormone level created by nature sits in place the possibility for these types of things to occur. >> what is your reaction, sir, to an individual like that suggesting that the sexual crime of rape can somehow be justified by the raging hormones occurring in a young man's body? >> well, some of his friends believe if a person, if a young woman is being raped, that she can avoid pregnancy by having the body to reject these type of things. i don't know how badly we men folks have been raised in terms of regarding women as an inferior person, but you can see that some of this is hard for certain people to get rid of, and there's just no excuse to violate a person's body regardless of the hormones. and if you follow that to its illogical conclusion, it could even get worse than that. but we don't really need that type of thinking for a serious problem that the military is facing now. those

what he specifically wants saxby chambliss is a no-fly zone. the administration tonight ruled that out at least for now and that's not making chambliss happy. take a listen. >> we now know the chemical weapons have been used for almost a year by the syrian regime. we have done nothing. so i think it's time that we act in a very serious way. if a no-fly zone is what they decided to do, then i'm sure our military is taking right preparations for carrying out a successful operation and i will support that. >> so when will we hear from the president? white house officials are saying to us tonight that he has the g 8 submit in northern ireland next week. meeting with allies like the french the british and others. consulting with them behind closed doors and publicly telling the world what the are the next steps. >> shepard: options have been described as potentially all bad. might u.s. intervention make things worse would the russians join in on the side of the syrian government? could the conflict expand across the region? jonathan hunt's report on

in the meantime we have senator saxby chambliss, vice president of the senate intelligence committee,phone. senator chambliss, your reaction to the news today? >> i think it's time that the president came out and said that we now know and because we validated it over the last several monies that bashar al assad has in fact used chemical weapons against his own people in syria, as well as against the opposition rebels. when the president said that was a red line, i wish that as soon as that had been validated that he would have stepped up and said the united states is not going to stand by and see more innocent people in syria get slaughtered, but i am glad that he's stepping up right now. and as senator mccain said, maybe the final decision has not been made relative to arming the rebels. that has to be done very carefully, but we have a pretty good idea of who the folks are that we want to keep armed o out -- arms out of the hands of, brianna. the intelligence community knows who those are, the military community knows. if the decision is to put lethal arms in the hands of the rebels

saxby chambliss, the top republican on the intelligence committee, said "if it's not" treason, "it'sretty damn close." snowden's whereabouts actually now unknown, and he may even have left hong kong, where he had been staying in a hotel for weeks. lawmakers and federal officials want to know how a private contractor with limited experience and an apparent lack of formal education had access to such sensitive material. it's also shining a spotlight on the government's use of outside companies to deal with national secrets. get this number, 1.4 million people hold top-secret clearances, one-third of them private contractors. still, new polling shows the american people are generally in favor of clandestine programs like this. according to a "washington post"/pew poll, 62% favor and 56% say the phone-tracking program is acceptable. but more than half of those surveyed believe the government should not monitor e-mail to prevent terrorist attacks. >>> some other news to get to, starting with former south african president nelson mandela still in the hospital for a fourth day. the country'

that state's seat is up next year, hold by saxby chambliss.a heavily republican state. there's a lot of ambitious republican politicians angling to succeed him. if you want to succeed saxby chambliss, you first have to win the republican primary, in georgia, where it's extra conservative, especially on cultural issues. one of the republicans running is congressman paul brown. same congressman paul brown who a week after president obama was elected in 2008 compared him to hitler and suggested obama would try to create a marxist dictatorship. the paul brown this week who voted against a republican bill in the house to ban abortions after 20 weeks. brown had been a co-sponsor, but when the bill was amended to include exceptions for rape and incest, he took to the house floor to demand his name be taken off it. that was monday. on tuesday, a day later, another georgia senate candidate, who is also a member of the house, republican congressman phil beginning gingry put on his own show. his message, we should teach gender issues in school. >> part o

vice chair of the intelligence committee, saxby chambliss of georgia will be here, as well as democratic senator mark udall, a skeptic of these programs. and general michael head heyden who formerly ran the area. "lincoln unbound," all ahead. >>> a worldwide phenomenon about to kick off right here in washington. that's still ahead. [ male announcer ] the new subway® $4 lunch is for everyone. it's for value seekers. for spicy italian lovers. for veggie eaters. for meatball dreamers. for everyone who wants more of what they love. the new $4 lunch. a 6 inch sub and 21 ounce drink. tons to choose from. all day every day. [ female announcer ] it balances you... [ water crashing ] ...it fills you with energy... and it gives you what you are looking for to live a more natural life. in a convenient two bar pack. this is nature valley... delicious granola bars made with the best ingredients in nature. nature valley. nature at its most delicious. >>> here are some stories we'll be following in the week ahead. the g-8 summit begins tomorrow in northern ireland. president obama leaves to lead top in

with us, two key voices from the senate intelligence committee, the republican vice chair, saxby chambliss of georgia, a supporter of the government's dragnet, and a prominent skeptic, colorado democrat mark udall. then, our "roundtable" on the broader questions raised by the leaks. is snowden a hero or a traitor? how much political damage has been done? and is this the dawn of a new age of big brother? >>> and good sunday morning. as the president prepares to depart this evening for the g-8 summit in northern ireland, global issues are certainly taking center stage. overnight in iran, celebrations in the streets after moderate hassan rohani was elected president. we'll be talking about that. quite a different scene in turkey. riot police used tear gas and clubs to clear antigovernment protesters from a square there. >>> and news out of jordan this morning where king abdullah warns the kingdom is ready to fight any threat to its security from the growing conflict in neighboring syria, a sign that that conflict could spill over its borders. and the conflicf

saxby chambliss of georgia. >> this has been going on for seven years. >> stephanie: that's why you areey knew about this. senator dyne -- dianne feinstein. >> this is renewed every three months. they must go into court, and this is that renewal. >> stephanie: and that's the -- you know -- people -- some people are saying overreach. i heard one expert say that this is absolutely overreaching. people like feinstein are saying no, senator durbin of illinois. >> we want to keep america safe but we don't want to compromise our freedoms as individuals. >> i totally agree with that. >> stephanie: right. but that's the fine line. the vaporless lindsey graham on this subject. >> i hope the american people appreciate we are at war, because i sure as well do. >> stephanie: that's the problem. it's always wording. >> we were at war in world war ii. >> i don't know that we're at war right now. we're just defending ourselves. >> stephanie: can you be at war against a tactic? chris hi. >> caller: i agree with that last caller. i just don't understand what people are so paranoid about. every month the

with us, two key voices from the senate intelligence committee, the republican vice chair, saxby chambliss

during a hearing tuesday georgia's saxby chambliss said hormones may be partly responsible for the epidemicd forces. >> the young folks that are coming into each of your services are anywhere from 17 to 22 or 23. gee whiz. the level of -- the hormone level created by nature sets in place the possibility for these types of things to occur. >> well, that suggests that most sexual assaults happen among that age category, then? >> it's an interesting analysis by the senator. >> it true a sharp review from both sides of the aisle. ohio republican congressman mike turner who co-chairs a caucus on military sexual assault said that that kind of thinking helps perpetuate the problem. >> bipartisan criticism for saxby chambliss. >>> what do you think about how first lady michelle obama handled a heckler at a fundraising event in washington on tuesday? during her prepared remarks, a woman started interrupting mrs. obama. the first lady shot right back at the protester, telling her she could either, quote, listen to me or you can take the mike. but i'm leaving. you all decide. you have one choice. the

listen to what we heard over the weekend from senator saxby chambliss. >> and the way he utilized the tools that we have to figure out what they're doing, what they're planning. and we're able to disrupt them. we've done that time and time again. i hope we can give the american public more examples of those interruptions over the next several days. we've done that as a result of utilizing these tools. >> reporter: terror plots were foiled in the u.s. and 20 other countries as a result of the surveillance. they are hoping to declassify information this week. >>> we're receiving word in a britain may have a surveillance scandal on its hands. gchq hacked into foreign diplomats phones during conferences. they stole passwords at a g-20 conference in 2009. the information appears to have come from edward snowden. the tea party scandal may be bigger than we first thought. that would contradict the agency's claim that a small group of workers at an office in cincinnati mishandled the applications. the supervisor has not said that any of the irs' top brass were involved. >>> today, we expect p

saxby chambliss and mark udall will weigh in on "meet the press." >>> that does it for us today. to say to my dad, happy father's day, dad. >> happy father's day to all the dads out there. once again, happy first father's day to you. talk about a great day. nice to have you with us. lots of dads joining us this morning. and one daughter behind me who promises her dad she won't spend too much on the credit card today. have a great day, everyone. >>> good morning, washington, d.c. >> good morning to you too. >>> showers could put a damper on your father's day plan. sorry, guys. >> we're just the messengers. >> father's day, sunday, june 16, 2013. the real messenger is meteorologist chuck bell. >> let's pass the buck to chuck. >> that was a pass the buck, all right. no doubt about that. i can take it, though. cloudy skies this morning, and we've seen a few lonely sprinkles in northern most maryland and another little chance for rain up here in the next couple of hours. better rain chances much into the later and later afternoon and morning hours. 70 in manassas. and 69 in springfiel

you have stuff that is a lot of people that you saw from saxby chambliss to dianne feinstein.ets tarred tah the same brush as the irs and snooping and reporters do legitimate things that might protect us take a different col. >>> you saw in the case of the doj, the james rosen investigation those are abuses of power and it is what gives people cause when you talk about things like the nsa program. that is a potential abuse of power and if it were to be abused it would be tremendously invasive and problematic abuse of power. the nsa program at least as it relates to the verizon part of it is operating basically as it was designed. >> chris: but is there a danger of a backlash where legitimately surveillance may somehow be tarred because of the fact we had the other scandals. >> and for one reason in particular. president bush ran the government every day talking about the war on terror and the need to do everything legal to thwart the terrorist threat. president obama announced two weeks ago we are no longer under serious threat al-qaeda and yet the programs persist and in some

we heard the house intelligence chairman saying there was a high probability back then and saxby chambliss goes back a year and a half. something rogers said, too. what do you think happens, charles? >> i think what we need to happen is for obama to make a decision. if he wants to stay out, he should say so. and then there will be others, perhaps the french who are the mandatory colonial power in lebanon, syria historical connection with the marinites in lebanon. perhaps the french or the british. others in the gulf very upset about the way, iran, hezbollah, syria have this axis with the russians behind them who have opposed them and dominate them. they are allies. everybody waits on the united states. when the gulf war happened in 1990 and the invasion of kuwait, nobody acted. but the minute america said we are going to react without allies joined the coalition. nothing happens until he says. he has to say. unless he does, i think it's going to be a hamlet performance. you know what happens at the end of hamlet, everybody dies. >> bret: nina? >> i think there is going to be a move forward

first you have, senator saxby chambliss of georgia. >> we've got to do a better job of screening folksbefore they come in and the other thing we have to remember, is we think about making changes to the ucmj in this respect. the young folks that are coming into each of your services, are anywhere from 17 to 22 or 3, gee whiz, that's the level of the hormone level created by nature. sets in place the possibility for these types of things to occur. >> well republican congressman mike turner of ohio co-chair of the military sexual assault prevention caucus rebuked the senator in a statement that reads in part -- quote, it's simple, criminals are responsible for sexual assaults, not hormones. but a few hours later, senator jeff sessions of alabama joined the hearing and introduced the issue of pornography, information he had been provided by the group, morality in the media let's listen to him. >> mr. chairman, i just had a letter, a document here given do me. morality in the media. pat truman used to be in the department of just us is, i knew him when he was there. points out that a pictu

feinstein reaction shared by saxby chambliss and lindsey graham.an ascribe their reaction as the big whoop reaction saying there's nothing new here. we've been getting briefed on programs like this for years and voting on programs like this for years and authorizing programs like this for years. why are you freaked-out about this? reaction number one. number two, typified at the hill newspaper today. today. patriot act author extremely troubled by nsa phone tracking. patriot act author is troubled by this? jim sensenbrenner original author of the patriot act in 2001 which cleared the way for all this to happen he says i had no idea this would happen. first reaction is big whoop we all knew this was happen. the second reaction was who me caucus? i had no idea this was going on. senator isaacson who voted for the patriot act and fisa reauthorizing last year in the who me category along with jim sensenbrenner. he said i never voted intentionally for any bill that would grant blanket authority to monitor every phone call. senator, apparently yes, you d

. >> the senate intelligence committee leadership, dianne feinstein and saxby chambliss confirmed itas a reauthorization for a 7-year-old program. we don't know whether the still classified program was recently expanded though democratic senators complain that is likely. former employees this worked on classified data collection at the agency believes phone call recordings were also stored. >> it is much easier to collect it and store it some where and have it available even if it is six months old or a year old or are two years old or, however, many to be able to have the data to look at to confirm my suspicions. >> and the classified court order seems to conflict with public statements by the intelligence community. >> does the nsa collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of americans? >> no, sir. >> it does not? >> not wittingly. there are are cases where are they could inadvertently perhaps collect but not wittingly. >> and tonight, an interview with the national journal clapper stood by the comments insisting the intelligence community does not randoml

. >> but it was republican senator saxby chambliss of georgia whose remarks garnered scrutiny, he blamede of the recruits 17 to 23 years of age. >> gee whiz, the level -- hormone level created by nature sets in place the possiby for these types of things to occur. >> fellow republican congressman mike turner fired back in a press release, quote: it's simple, criminals are responsible for texasial assaults, not hormones, etuating this line of thinking does ing help change the culture our military, shepard? >> shepard: jennifer griffin at pentagon, thanks. calling for the white house to consider releasing more documents from usama bin laden's compound. u.s. officials have said navy seals recovered what they called a treasure trove of material after they killed the al qaeda leader two years ago. thousands of documents. so far we have seen 17 of them. intelligence officials have said they are working to declassify more material while making sure not to jeopardize national security. catherine herridge is in washington for us tonight and now the intelligence committee may get to see some more

saxby chambliss and mark udall will weigh in on "meet the press." >>> that does it for us today. to my dad, happy father's day, dad. >> happy father's day to all the dads out there. once again, happy first father's day to you. talk about a great day. nice to have you with us. lots of dads joining us this morning. and one daughter behind me who promises her dad she won't spend too much on the credit card today. have a great day, everyone. >> coming up next on 11 news, we will take a look at here and around the world a show you our list of this summer's toys that might help keep your kids busy. >> and showers popping up to our west. we'll talk about how that will impact our >> hello and welcome to 11 news sunday morning i'm sarah caldwell in for lisa robinson. >> and i'm jennifer franciotti. we want to wish all the dads out there happy father's day for sure but first let's check outside with ava. already some clouds rolling in for the day? >> i think it was just so beautiful yesterday. people were saying it's the best day they can remember for a longe.

in that last line, senator lautenberg launched a stunning, well deserved attack on saxby chambliss blisssenator two years earlier. cleland was a decorated combat veteran that lost two legs and an arm. he was a former football player that filed for five student deferments from the draft, bravely insisted to the draft board his football injury, which has never shown any version of inhibiting his movement in any way, that football injury should prevent him serving in the military in time of war. there's senator lautenberg calling a sitting senator a chicken hawk on the senate floor, something i had never seen a senator do, even though the senate is filled with chicken hawks, senators that refuse to serve in the military when they were of age, but have always found it easy to support sending soldiers into combat. new jersey's governor chris christie will appoint a temporary senator to fill what's been a democratic senate seat for 34 years. today, governor chris christie told new jersey women's conference it would be inappropriate to deliver his prepared speech, and instead remembered the sta

asked whether he would describe the act as treason, saxby chambliss replied if it's not, it's pretty close. one area where there is a whole lot of less outrage when it comes to the nsa surveillance story, if the american public hasn't responded with a collective shrug after learning the phone records are monitored, the's not a sense of outrage. according to a new post/pew poll, 56% of americans believe tracking telephone records of millions of americans is an acceptable way for the federal government to investigate terrorism. 41% say it's unacceptable. fully 45% of all americans say the government should be able to go further than it is saying that it should be able to monitor everyone's online activity if doing so would prevent terrorist attacks. 45%. full 62% of americans say it's more important for the government to investigate terrorist threats even if those investigations intrude on personal privacy. what's fascinating and also predictable at the same time is how partisan reactions have changed with the democratic president at the helm. 69% of democrats say terrorism investigati

people like dianne feinstein and saxby chambliss can have press conferences threatening people for bringing out -- bringing light to what it is that they're doing but the only people who are going to be investigated are them. it's well past time that these threats start to be treated with the contempt that they deserve. that's certainly how i intend to treat them moving forward with more investigation and disclosures. >> the response from the people who think this is not a bad idea can be summed up by congressman mike rogers. listen to what he had to say today. >> i can tell you why this program is important. within the last few years, this program was used to stop a program -- excuse me, stop a terrorist attack in the united states. we know that. >> we don't know what that is. it's the kind of thing you would expect him to trot out, i guess. what is your reaction to that? >> well, it's fascinating that the most right wing members of the congress like mike rogers and lindsey graham have become the administration's most vocal defenders. the obama administration's most vocal defenders because

senator saxby chambliss today and a comment he made during the hearing. take a listen. >> the young folks that are coming in to each of your services are anywhere from 17 to 22 or 23. gee wiz, the hormone level created by nature sets in place the possibility for these types of things to occur. >> how common is that attitude in your body, the united states senate, in the armed forces in general? >> well, what we've heard from previous testimony is it does seem to be a disconnect between what this crime is and how it's perceived. rape and sexual assault are crimes of violence, crimes of dominance. more than half of the victims are men. these are not crimes of lust, they're not crimes of romance, not dates that have gone badly. they're not issues of the hook-up culture from high school or hormones as my colleague says. we're talking about predators, often serial predators who are targeting their victims in advance, making them vulnerable through alcohol or other means and actually stalking them. and they repeat these crimes over and over again. what we're tr