sbcvc, we asked for $25 million and we did receive $25 million. on the right side of page 7, you see the absolute return numbers. doing fine. you see again the bond market has really struggled since the inception of this program. we have reduced our bond exposure from 20% down to whatever the number was, it's really quite low. personnel. two big positives and one sad piece of news. andrew collins joined us as director of esg, we introduced him to the board a few weeks ago. andrew has nine plus years experience in the esg space, most recently at state street and with the accounting standards board, we welcome bo williamson, he has more than 12 years of private equity experience, we're thrilled to have both them join the team. >> are they here in the audience? >> they are, we did introduce them, but you weren't here. andrew? do you want them to speak. bo to our left and andrew to your right. bo, andrew? act one, scene one, take two. >> i'm bo williamson joined last week, working with art and cynthia. i was with the private equity funds group. >> wel