. >> we're happy to have with us an incredibly successful sberp neurowho's a philanthropist. his rags to riches is being expressed in a documentary. john paul is with us. thank you so much for joining us today. >> my pleasure. it's nice to be here. >> thank you very much. >> i wish we could talk with you the whole day but we can see the documentary to see your whole story. you've been so successful in your life. i would love to hear from someone who's so successful about the time you felt the need to give this up. did that ever happen to you? was it ever so hard you thought, i can't do it. >> so many times. with john paul mitchell systems because we started with $700, every day for two years we should have gone bankrupt. it was tough. it was hand to mouth. and very difficult. we were like why are we doing this? i better go to work for somebody. i can't pay the bills, sleep at night. that happened many times. but deep inside it was i know what we have is the greatest product for hair. i know if we keep on talking about it to enough people and they try it they'll reorder it. an