when that sbi contract was led to the initial sbi net technology deployment for the entire southwest border was planned to be completed by early fiscal year 2009. i did during 2009 the completion date had slipped to 2016. some lovely in february 2008 the program office reported that block one would be complete by the end of calendar year 2008. now scheduled for final acceptance by january 2010. the cost of the sbi net project from the fiscal year 2007 through 2014 was estimated at $6.7 billion. the cost could change due to program and cost adjustments. along with environmental issues and funding reallocations the results of testing activities and to be tinted these delays. sbi program officials emphasized and we agreed that testing is a necessary step of employment in that it assures technology capabilities perform as required. by february 2009 testing results revealed problems including adverse weather conditions, mechanical problems with the radar at the tower, and issues with the sensitivity of the radar. the sbi program office is still working to address some of these issues. in

is the department satisfied with the contracting vehicle for sbi net. does it provide sufficient protection for taxpayers if the doesn't work? does it prevent large cost overruns and there are disincentives or penalties for contractor-missed declines or program errors that cause delays? >> in general, i would say that the contract we have is awkward. it is not the contract in hindsight that probably we should have. it does have the capability to do incentives and disincentives. ultimately the responsibility, though, for holding the cost is basically the government program management. the contract is a standard contract. it's a standard type of acquisition. it give us the tools that we do need. it includes elements like award fee and incentive fee which adjusts profit based on the performance of the contractor. and as we put additional tasks on, we are in the position where we put disincentives. for example, on the northern border there are schedule incentives and if schedules that are missed there are penalties for missing them. there are other kinds of

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