go above sbir. okay? come to our office and -- i own sbir for the department now, so go above sbir and -- try them first, but if they don't agree that your objection is valid, raise it to a higher level and we will look at it. i am on the lookout for nonvalue added processes, but i can't identify them by myself. i could spend all day looking at stuff and i would never get anything else done. [ inaudible ]. >> yes. okay. so bring to us what you think is not value added and we will look at it. we will. the secretary has made exactly that same point to larger industry. tell us what you think is broken and we will look at it. we won't guarantee to decide in your favor, but you will get a hearing. the second part of your question, how to deal with the value of death. well, okay, the reality is that most things that come out of sbir should die. okay? i mean, just because someone has a clever new idea does not mean it's a good idea. the purpose of sbir programs and other innovative ways to try new ideas out is t

go above sbir. ok? i own sbir for the department now. themove sbir and we'll try first. but if they don't agree that your objection is valid, raise it to a higher level and we'll look at it. i'm looking at nonvalued processes. i could spend all day looking at stuff and wouldn't get anything else done. pardon? yes, ok. so bring to us what you think is not value-added and we'll look at it. we will. the secretary has made exactly that same point to larger industries, tell us what you think is broken and we'll look at it. we won't guarantee to decide in your favor, but you will get a hearing. the second part of your question, how to do with the value. reality things that come out of sbir should die. i mean someone has a clever new idea doesn't mean it's a good idea. the purpose of darpa siblings and sbir programs and other innovative ways is to see if they're good. how to get them through the valleys of death, i know this is a long-held problem. i don't know that i know yet. i recognize it as a problem. once we like an idea, how do we find a champion for it to move it into p

go above sbir. for the department now. go above sbir. , and we'll try them first. but if they don't agree that your objection is valid, raise it to a higher level and we'll look at it. i am on the lookout for nonvalued processes. but i can't identify them by myself. i could spend all day looking at stuff, and i would never get anything else done. so bring to us what you think is not value added, and we will look at it. we well. the secretary has made exactly that same point to larger industry. tell us what you think is broken and we will look at it. guaranteed to deciding your favor, but you will get a hearing. the second part of your question, how to do with the valley of death. the reality is, most things that come out of sbir should die. just because someone has a clever new idea does not mean it's a good idea. seedlingse of darpa and sbir programs and other innovative ways is to see if they're good. how to get the good ones through the valley of death, this is a long held problem. i don't know that i know yet. i recognize it as a problem. like an idea, how do w

he tweeted out an sbir link to the segment. the bad news is they just busted down his door which shows they have evidence of some kind of other crimes. that implies offenses yopd campaign donations. i is a tape the campaign desperately wanted to keep from coming out. the investigative question becomes this is what the feds are asking, what did michael cohen do to try to keep that tape from coming out? i'm joined now by betty, who has been following every angle of this probe. so walk us through the tape. it's perceived potency and danger to donald trump and what a man who said he would take a bullet for donald trump would think of it? >>. >> i think everyone thought when the tape came out to hifl confessing everyone kind of said that's the end of his campaign. that's the nail in the coffin. he was reporting on how it would effect public perception of donald trump. an hour later the e-mails are leaked. no one was really looking into what trump's lawyer was doing to try to suppress the tape and suppress women that were trying to c

we traditionally have used tools like sbir to tap into small companies to get their technologies to take advantage within the nasa mission. within this we are doing more within prizes and challenges. with those we can reach into a broader immunity outside the u.s. and tap into technologists that could be in the garage somewhere across the globe. this is really important as we look at technologies that now 70% of the research is done offshore and outside the u.s. press not to tap into this is a mistake, we have to tap into that and we have to develop the partnerships in order to get this kind of technology to accomplish the things that we are working on. we need to make sure we have a balanced discussion with regards to tech transfer. this is something that is in our original mission statement and is something we do a lot of. we have a spinoff magazine that goes out the people look at all the time for the amount of things that have come out of the space program. it is kind of part of our culture to do technology transfer. the thing that we are recognizing, however, is that this broad diss

and so, we have traditionally used tools like sbir to tap into small companies to get their technologies, to take advantage of those within the nasa mission, but recently, we were doing a lot more with prizes and challenges. and with those, we actually can now reach into a much broader community, outside of just the u.s., tap into technologists who may be in a garage somewhere across the globe. this is really important as we look at technologies that now 70% of the research is done offshore, outside of the u.s. for us not to tap into that is a big mistake. we have got to tap into that, and we've got to develop the partnerships in order to get that kind of technology, in order to accomplish the kinds of things that we are working on. so, i think we need to make sure we have a balanced discussion with regard to tech transfer. the other side of that, with regard to the tech transfer itself, it is something that is in our original mission statement. it's something that we do a lot of. we have a spinoff magazine that goes out that people look at all the time for the amount of things that have

government through various types of grants so everything about sbir's and getting money from darpa, a srl, army research lab, there's so much money from these labs going into university labs that prop up the kernels of these ideas and then they get to a patentable technology and they patent it and they form a really small startup and they go out and seek support to do their startup. if you're going all the way from the generation of the idea which is funded by the united states government all way down to the investment of series a, then you have to say okay, maybe have a series a in a series b and all of a sudden by the time you get down to see, you have external investors that you didn't plan on having your portfolio to prop up your technology. you start investing, maybe being open to other types of investors and that entire patchwork of how an idea gets funded and generated all the way to where it gets an ipo and then thinking about how to market and now i need to go into a space that has more market like china or asia and i have to has tech transfer. this is such a bees nest, a bee

so if we're thinking about sbirs, getting money from darpa, onr, afrl, army research lab. there is so much money from these labs going into university labs that prop up the kernels of these ideas. and they get to a patentable technology and patent it, and form a really small startup with the lab manager and the guy who invented it. and then they go out and seek vc support to do their startups and they have to think about -- so if you're going from the generation of the idea, which is funded by the united states government, all the way down to vcs investing in a series a, you know, then you have to say, okay, maybe they get over to series a and b and c and all of a sudden by the time you get down to c, you know, you've -- you've got, you know, external investors that you didn't even plan on having in your portfolio to prop up your technology that you don't want to have cost fallacies about, and you start investing -- you start being more open to other types of investors. and that entire kind of patchwork of how an idea gets funded and generated all the way to when it gets i