for sbirt but all communication. because they have to learn how to talk with patients of different cultures for many different reasons. it may not just be sbirt that they are talking about, but they take these same skills, this open-ended listening and reflective listening, back to their own patient population for other reasons also. and they also incorporate... i know that we were talking about previously the whole issue of families not wanting to accept that there is a mental illness because they feel somehow people may discriminate against them, and some people call it stigma, but it is really a discriminatory practice to not be able to accept the medical condition within the family. so i suspect they need to also learn about those issues. definitely. learning about the whole spectrum improves the health care provider and what they can provide, what assistance they can provide to their patients. and, fran, let's go back and talk about... most of what we have been referring to has to do with alcohol and drug disord